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NUCLEAR FACE-DOWN: USA VS NORTH KOREA TO UNIFY THE KOREAN PENINSULA
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Aviroce
2013-04-04 15:15:13 UTC
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NUCLEAR FACE-DOWN: USA VS NORTH KOREA TO UNIFY THE KOREAN PENINSULA
By Aviroce

I am looking forward to watch the War with Nukes. I want to see the
actual consequences. According to Tsun Tzue wars are to be conducted
for profit. We have seen what the profits USA extracted by
demolishing Iraq and Afghnistan and now Syria. But these wars are the
filthiest and lowest types of wars according to the same author. The
cleanest war is the one that hardly sees combat, in some sense, a war
by intimidation and submission. In the present scenario we have two
evil countries facing each other. The strongest country on earth and
that is USA and the so-called rogue country as defined by the
strongest country called North Korea. The strongest country wishes to
perpetuate WWII victory through its power at the United Nations,
actually the latter was organized by it. The "rogue" country wants
to (1) break USA monopoly on the world economy or be part of it, and
(2) unify the two Koreas resulting from a prolonged and bloody
dehumanizing war in the 1950s.

The strategies of the war. North Korea will bomb Guam and Hawaii to
bomb the United States' territories. These territories are far away
from the Korean Peninsula and killing the people on them would be
possible for sacrifice. In this case North Korea would be saving the
Koreans from certain death and annihilation by Korean weapons. On the
other hand, USA would attempt to burn to ashes North Korea and expose
South Korea to uncertain military and disaster future as the two
Korean territories would be exposed to the same mass destruction. Now
would Japan be next on the agenda? Would China get indirectly into
the war? Would India ask questions? All these are left for an after-
attack. Notice that the strategy to bomb Guam and Hawaii is a
strategy of limited destruction. But the strategy of bombing North
Korea is unlimited. May be USA should use its Foreign Legionnaire
army in the rogue state of Israel to fight such filthy war. Israel is
fatrher away from North Korea and carrying Israel's atrocious savage
army to the Korean Peninsula would serve USA best. Israel has an
itching palm to use Nuclear, Chemical and Biological Bombs to kill
people, a small country wishing to take over the world community to
convert people to slaves. For USA. using the rogue state of Israel,
just what USA created and supported, is a symbol of loyalty and
devotion to the unholy alliance between the two countries..

Aviroce
HHW
2013-04-04 18:57:27 UTC
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NUCLEAR FACE-DOWN: USA VS NORTH KOREA TO UNIFY THE KOREAN PENINSULA
By Aviroce
I am looking forward to watch the War with Nukes.  I want to see the
actual consequences. According to Tsun Tzue wars are to be conducted
for profit.  We have seen what the profits USA extracted by
demolishing Iraq and Afghnistan and now Syria.  But these wars are the
filthiest and lowest types of wars according to the same author.  The
cleanest war is the one that hardly sees combat, in some sense, a war
by intimidation and submission.  In the present scenario we have two
evil countries facing each other.  The strongest country on earth and
that is USA and the so-called rogue country as defined by the
strongest country called North Korea.  The strongest country wishes to
perpetuate WWII victory through its power at the United Nations,
actually the latter was organized by it.  The "rogue" country  wants
to (1) break USA monopoly on the world economy or be part of it, and
(2) unify the two Koreas resulting from a prolonged and bloody
dehumanizing war in the 1950s.
The strategies of the war.  North Korea will bomb Guam and Hawaii to
bomb the United States' territories.  These territories are far away
from the Korean Peninsula and killing the people on them would be
possible for sacrifice.  In this case North Korea would be saving the
Koreans from certain death and annihilation by Korean weapons.  On the
other hand, USA would attempt to burn to ashes North Korea and expose
South Korea to uncertain military and disaster future as the two
Korean territories would be exposed to the same mass destruction.  Now
would Japan be next on the agenda?  Would China get indirectly into
the war?  Would India ask questions?  All these are left for an after-
attack.  Notice that the strategy to bomb Guam and Hawaii is a
strategy of limited destruction.  But the strategy of bombing North
Korea is unlimited.  May be USA should use its Foreign Legionnaire
army in the rogue state of Israel to fight such filthy war.  Israel is
fatrher away from North Korea and carrying Israel's atrocious savage
army to the Korean Peninsula would serve USA best.  Israel has an
itching palm to use Nuclear, Chemical and Biological Bombs to kill
people, a small country wishing to take over the world community to
convert people to slaves.  For USA. using the rogue state of Israel,
just what USA created and supported, is a symbol of loyalty and
devotion to the unholy alliance between the two countries..
Aviroce
One doesn't have to share your personal hatred or see the United
States through your lens, Heavan forbid, in order to know how badly we
have failed in the Arab world and in other places, failed not only in
our duties to basic human principles but also to ourselves. Tell us,
Aviroce, realistically and *without exaggeration* HOW it is you feel
we have gone wrong and what you believe we should do to begin the
process of rebuilding. We need the advice from your regional
perspective, not only from ever-manipulative Zionists.

Again, without anger or exaggeration please tell us what you know
about how we are viewed by the broad populations in the Arab and
Muslim world and why. Take your time and paint a big picture. If it
includes more than the wars since 1991, help us understand it. What
does the typical man in the street think of us and why?
Aviroce
2013-04-09 03:34:06 UTC
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I am not the kind of guy who celebrates while being screwed.USA has
been the evil in Palestine, Arab and Muslim countries. All for the
oil, control of markets, and control of currency. Israel was created
to be a thorn in Paletinian, Arab and Muslim countries and USA is
maximizing that with an open alliance with Israel and Jews.
As an American citizen, I show how evil USA is to Palestinians, Arabs
and Muslims and how filthy it conducts its wars against others. USA
is the most deranged country only Jews understood that and are guiding
it into doomsday.
In an answer to survey conducted by the Democratic Party, I wrote that
USA policy has been to take the honey and destroy the beehive and that
it is about time for USA to take the honey and keep the beehive.
I am disgusted by Jews controlling this power and I know what Jews
have been doing in Palestine. Israel and USA are Evil personified..
Satan is more clever than Evil. Satan deceives and tempts. Evil
inflicts inhumanity against life and the human race.
But I appreciate your comment and request. And I still think you are
a good writer and investigator on the Internet. To me Palestine and
the Palestinians are Number One. I want to live long enough to see
Palestinians live in their own country in their own homes. To start
with, a Palestinian State with basis of UN Resolution 242 and
elimination of apartheid from Israel to establish a democratic Israel
accepting all Palestinians that left their homes due to Jew atrocities
and USA show of power.
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Post by Aviroce
NUCLEAR FACE-DOWN: USA VS NORTH KOREA TO UNIFY THE KOREAN PENINSULA
By Aviroce
I am looking forward to watch the War with Nukes.  I want to see the
actual consequences. According to Tsun Tzue wars are to be conducted
for profit.  We have seen what the profits USA extracted by
demolishing Iraq and Afghnistan and now Syria.  But these wars are the
filthiest and lowest types of wars according to the same author.  The
cleanest war is the one that hardly sees combat, in some sense, a war
by intimidation and submission.  In the present scenario we have two
evil countries facing each other.  The strongest country on earth and
that is USA and the so-called rogue country as defined by the
strongest country called North Korea.  The strongest country wishes to
perpetuate WWII victory through its power at the United Nations,
actually the latter was organized by it.  The "rogue" country  wants
to (1) break USA monopoly on the world economy or be part of it, and
(2) unify the two Koreas resulting from a prolonged and bloody
dehumanizing war in the 1950s.
The strategies of the war.  North Korea will bomb Guam and Hawaii to
bomb the United States' territories.  These territories are far away
from the Korean Peninsula and killing the people on them would be
possible for sacrifice.  In this case North Korea would be saving the
Koreans from certain death and annihilation by Korean weapons.  On the
other hand, USA would attempt to burn to ashes North Korea and expose
South Korea to uncertain military and disaster future as the two
Korean territories would be exposed to the same mass destruction.  Now
would Japan be next on the agenda?  Would China get indirectly into
the war?  Would India ask questions?  All these are left for an after-
attack.  Notice that the strategy to bomb Guam and Hawaii is a
strategy of limited destruction.  But the strategy of bombing North
Korea is unlimited.  May be USA should use its Foreign Legionnaire
army in the rogue state of Israel to fight such filthy war.  Israel is
fatrher away from North Korea and carrying Israel's atrocious savage
army to the Korean Peninsula would serve USA best.  Israel has an
itching palm to use Nuclear, Chemical and Biological Bombs to kill
people, a small country wishing to take over the world community to
convert people to slaves.  For USA. using the rogue state of Israel,
just what USA created and supported, is a symbol of loyalty and
devotion to the unholy alliance between the two countries..
Aviroce
One doesn't have to share your personal hatred or see the United
States through your lens, Heavan forbid, in order to know how badly we
have failed in the Arab world and in other places, failed not only in
our duties to basic human principles but also to ourselves. Tell us,
Aviroce, realistically and *without exaggeration* HOW it is you feel
we have gone wrong and what you believe we should do to begin the
process of rebuilding. We need the advice from your regional
perspective, not only from ever-manipulative Zionists.
Again, without anger or exaggeration please tell us what you know
about how we are viewed by the broad populations in the Arab and
Muslim world and why. Take your time and paint a big picture. If it
includes more than the wars since 1991, help us understand it. What
does the typical man in the street think of us and why?- Hide quoted text -
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Surfer
2013-04-11 00:10:42 UTC
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On Mon, 8 Apr 2013 20:34:06 -0700 (PDT), Aviroce
Israel was created to be a thorn in Paletinian, Arab and Muslim countries...
Actually Aviroce, Israel existed when Arabs were still pagans, but
Roman, Arab, Turkish and British invaders turned it into a colony that
they called Palestine.

So Palestine was a fiction created by imperialists.

Now Jews have ejected foreign military forces and re-established
Israel as an independent country.

That is the principle thing that has happened.
Aviroce
2013-04-11 21:23:29 UTC
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Palestine exists by axiom just like your existence.
Now to history. Israel existed as a state for only 35 years after
overcoming the Philistines, Palestine or Phalistine is derived from
the Philistines, a Greek tribe. Then Israel was destroyed and its
inhabitants were chained to Mesopotamia, Iraq, where Jews began to
have many prophets daily all crying and wanting to get back to Israel.
During the Roman Empire, Israel was reconstituted as a colony, never
independently. As such it taxed the Palestinians, Jews, heavily that
they lost their farms. With John the Baptist and then Jesus these
Palestinian wanderers rebelled against the evil Jew kingdom, hence
Rome, leading to killing both men Imagine receiving the head of John
the Baptist on a tray like a meal.
Persian gave Jews the option to come back to Palestine. Turks never
objected to having Jews in Jerusalem. But Jews never did that until
the Khazar kingdom crumpled, east Europeans began to attack Jews,
Germany and Austria got sick and tired of these evil people having
full control of their societies.
Palestine always was called so under all empires.
Post by Surfer
On Mon, 8 Apr 2013 20:34:06 -0700 (PDT), Aviroce
Israel was created to be a thorn in Paletinian, Arab and Muslim countries...
Actually Aviroce, Israel existed when Arabs were still pagans, but
Roman, Arab, Turkish and British invaders turned it into a colony that
they called Palestine.
So Palestine was a fiction created by imperialists.
Now Jews have ejected foreign military forces and re-established
Israel as an independent country.
That is the principle thing that has happened.
Surfer
2013-04-12 18:47:08 UTC
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On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 14:23:29 -0700 (PDT), Aviroce
...
Actually, Israel was a well established country at the time it was
invaded by Rome. Hence the Romans considered it worthwhile to depict
their victory in the Arch of Titus.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arch_of_Titus

"....The Arch of Titus..... was constructed in c. 82 AD .... to
commemorate Titus' victories, including the Siege of Jerusalem in 70
AD...."

".....The south panel depicts the spoils taken from the Temple in
Jerusalem. The Golden Candlestick or Menorah is the main focus and is
carved in deep relief. Other sacred objects being carried in the
triumphal procession are the Gold Trumpets and the Table of Shew
bread.[2] These spoils were originally gilded with gold, with the
background in blue..."

".....The Arch provides one of the few contemporary depictions of
Temple period artifacts......

..... Roman Jews refused to walk under it. .....

..... However, when David Ben Gurion declared independence for the
State of Israel, the chief rabbi gathered the entire Roman Jewish
community by the arch and in solemn procession, walked the opposite
way under the arch to symbolise the return to Jerusalem and
Israel...."



Futhermore, Muslim, Christian and Jewish scriptures all say that God
gave the holy land to the Jews.

In the Quran:
http://www.quranexplorer.com/Quran/Default.aspx

The following verses describe the initial entry of Jews into the holy
land.

Chapter 5, Verse 20 .. 21

And (remember) when Moses said unto his people: O my people! Remember
Allah's favour unto you, how He placed among you prophets, and He made
you kings, and gave you that (which) He gave not to any (other) of
(His) creatures. (20) O my people! Go into the holy land which Allah
hath ordained for you. Turn not in flight, for surely ye turn back as
losers: (21)


And the following prophesizes Jews returning at a later time from
various nations.

Chapter 17, Verses 104 .. 105

And We said unto the Children of Israel after him: Dwell in the land;
but when the promise of the Hereafter cometh to pass We shall bring
you as a crowd gathered out of various nations. (104) With truth have
We sent it down, and with truth hath it descended. And We have sent
thee as naught else save a bearer of good tidings and a warner. (105)
Aviroce
2013-04-20 04:32:38 UTC
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Surfer, god is dead. There is no such thing as god. There are people
and animals and what Nature has given the world.
Post by Surfer
On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 14:23:29 -0700 (PDT), Aviroce
...
Actually, Israel was a well established country at the time it was
invaded by Rome.  Hence the Romans considered it worthwhile to depict
their victory in the Arch of Titus.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arch_of_Titus
"....The Arch of Titus..... was constructed in c. 82 AD ....  to
commemorate Titus' victories, including the Siege of Jerusalem in 70
AD...."
".....The south panel depicts the spoils taken from the Temple in
Jerusalem. The Golden Candlestick or Menorah is the main focus and is
carved in deep relief. Other sacred objects being carried in the
triumphal procession are the Gold Trumpets and the Table of Shew
bread.[2] These spoils were originally gilded with gold, with the
background in blue..."
".....The Arch provides one of the few contemporary depictions of
Temple period artifacts......
..... Roman Jews refused to walk under it. .....
..... However, when David Ben Gurion declared independence for the
State of Israel, the chief rabbi gathered the entire Roman Jewish
community by the arch and in solemn procession, walked the opposite
way under the arch to symbolise the return to Jerusalem and
Israel...."
Futhermore, Muslim, Christian and Jewish scriptures all say that God
gave the holy land to the Jews.
In the Quran:http://www.quranexplorer.com/Quran/Default.aspx
The following verses describe the initial entry of Jews into the holy
land.
Chapter 5, Verse 20 .. 21
And (remember) when Moses said unto his people: O my people! Remember
Allah's favour unto you, how He placed among you prophets, and He made
you kings, and gave you that (which) He gave not to any (other) of
(His) creatures. (20) O my people! Go into the holy land which Allah
hath ordained for you. Turn not in flight, for surely ye turn back as
losers: (21)
And the following prophesizes Jews returning at a later time from
various nations.
Chapter 17, Verses 104 .. 105
And We said unto the Children of Israel after him: Dwell in the land;
but when the promise of the Hereafter cometh to pass We shall bring
you as a crowd gathered out of various nations. (104) With truth have
We sent it down, and with truth hath it descended. And We have sent
thee as naught else save a bearer of good tidings and a warner. (105)
Surfer
2013-04-04 23:56:03 UTC
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On Thu, 4 Apr 2013 08:15:13 -0700 (PDT), Aviroce
... We have seen what the profits USA extracted by
demolishing Iraq and Afghnistan and now Syria.
What a liar you are.

The replacement of non-democratic regimes in Iraq and Afghanistan with
democratically elected ones, has cost the USA a great deal of money.
Aviroce
2013-04-09 03:06:04 UTC
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What democratic system? It is an agency for colonialism. Agents from
the people against the people for USA.
Post by Surfer
On Thu, 4 Apr 2013 08:15:13 -0700 (PDT), Aviroce
... We have seen what the profits USA extracted by
demolishing Iraq and Afghnistan and now Syria.
What a liar you are.
The replacement of non-democratic regimes in Iraq and Afghanistan with
democratically elected ones, has cost the USA a great deal of money.
Surfer
2013-04-10 23:01:38 UTC
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On Mon, 8 Apr 2013 20:06:04 -0700 (PDT), Aviroce
Post by Aviroce
What democratic system? It is an agency for colonialism. Agents from
the people against the people for USA.
That is unlikely as there is no evidence that the USA interfered in
the elections.

Also, the formation of the current government in Iraq was supported by
the Iranian and Assad regimes.

http://www.rs.iq/iraq_news/view/78

"....Syrian and Iranian Presidents Bashar al-Assad and Mahmud
Ahmadinejad expressed support for the formation of a national Iraqi
government representative of all groups in the country, according to
the Syrian Arab News Agency (SANA)...."
Aviroce
2013-04-11 21:13:03 UTC
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Did the United States of America remove its City Embassy in Baghdad
and its bases in Iraq and its control over the Iraqi oil and
discontinue the petroleum pipeline to Israel?
I keep using books I read as a fourteen year old. Here is one: The
Whirlpool by J.P. Sartre. Down with Aghera. Long live Aghera. Keep
in mind who are the controlling group.
Post by Surfer
On Mon, 8 Apr 2013 20:06:04 -0700 (PDT), Aviroce
What democratic system?  It is an agency for colonialism.  Agents from
the people against the people for USA.
That is unlikely as there is no evidence that the USA interfered in
the elections.
Also, the formation of the current government in Iraq was supported by
the Iranian and Assad regimes.
http://www.rs.iq/iraq_news/view/78
"....Syrian and Iranian Presidents Bashar al-Assad and Mahmud
Ahmadinejad expressed support for the formation of a national Iraqi
government representative of all groups in the country, according to
the Syrian Arab News Agency (SANA)...."
Surfer
2013-04-12 19:00:28 UTC
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On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 14:13:03 -0700 (PDT), Aviroce
Post by Aviroce
Did the United States of America remove its City Embassy in Baghdad
and its bases in Iraq and its control over the Iraqi oil and
discontinue the petroleum pipeline to Israel?
I keep using books I read as a fourteen year old. Here is one: The
Whirlpool by J.P. Sartre. Down with Aghera. Long live Aghera. Keep
in mind who are the controlling group.
Before worrying about that, who are the competing groups in Iraq?

Currently there are two main groups.

1) Islamic extremists that are blowing up innocent civilians for
rejecting their extremism.

2) Everybody who rejects such extremism.

The latter group includes the USA and the Iraqi government and most
Iraqi people and I hope it prevails.
Aviroce
2013-04-20 04:40:00 UTC
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Iraq is a colony of USA. As a colony, USA created divisiveness among
the people to weaken their resistance to Imperialism and Zionism. So
long as USA controls the oil fields, has bases to kill more Iraqis,
and an embassy as large as Baghdad, Iraqis will fight among themselves
rather than their real enemies. Iraqis are known as non-submissive
people. But when USA would butcher them in Falujah, have dogs eat
penises of rebels, rape the little children and kill their parents,
submission can be temporary and eventually will lead to liberation.
The only evil is USA and Jews.
Post by Surfer
On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 14:13:03 -0700 (PDT), Aviroce
Post by Aviroce
Did the United States of America remove its City Embassy in Baghdad
and its bases in Iraq and its control over the Iraqi oil and
discontinue the petroleum pipeline to Israel?
I keep using books I read as a fourteen year old.  Here is one: The
Whirlpool by J.P. Sartre.  Down with Aghera.  Long live Aghera.  Keep
in mind who are the controlling group.
Before worrying about that, who are the competing groups in Iraq?
Currently there are two main groups.
1) Islamic extremists that are blowing up innocent civilians for
rejecting their extremism.
2) Everybody who rejects such extremism.
The latter group includes the USA and the Iraqi government and most
Iraqi people and I hope it prevails.
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