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To the U.S. - The Real War Plan
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Sovereign of the Universe
2015-02-20 08:58:11 UTC
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The U.S. along with the United Nations should begin preparing war plans for
a 40 Nation, 2,000,000 man invasion of Iraq. If ISIL does not cease,
desist, and quit Iraq immediately, the Nations of the world shall be forced
to restore justice and order. The invasion must be reminiscent of 1991
Operation Desert Storm. However that successful operation evicted the
Iraqis merely from Kuwait City. This operation shall require the liberation
of a large area of Northern Iraq. No U.S. soldiers should be forced as
slaves to fight in Iraq, but only those who believe in the war should go.
Only soldiers who believe in what they're doing win wars. A one year long
build up before the invasion must be required. We should draw up multiple
war plan scenarios with Russia. ISIL must be bombed into weakness [word] in
the year before the invasion. If the invasion is done right with
overwhelming force, it should take merely a matter of days, weeks, or at
most months, as did Operation Desert Storm. Not as Afghanistan the previous
Iraq debacles, Vietnam or Korea. ISIL should not be underestimated. As the
vampires they are, they have seized the same military vehicles and weapons
the U.S. has. The wild card in this plan is Syria and Russia. The United
Nations could invade Syria also. It would be good to reconcile somehow with
Assad, Russia, and the Syrian rebels and make everyone happy. If we are
going to go over there with a large enough army, we may as well take care of
Syria as well.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_of_ISIL

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_War
965,000 U.S. troops liberated Kuwait vs. 650,000 Iraqi troops for 1 city!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_War
265,000 Allied troops invaded Baghdad vs. 375,000 Iraqi troops for an entire
country!

That's probably a big part of the reason why the Iraq war went on and on,
and why things are the way they are today!

And this before the U.S. had even wrapped up Afghanistan!!?!

Iraqi troops had no reason to fight for Saddam, deserted and fled!!

=> ISIS is much more determined and believes in their cause!!
They are apparently blood thirsty murderers eager for war.
They will be much harder to contend with.

We need overwhelming force and the world on our side, to conduct the
operation right and succeed. We also need something clear and concise worth
fighting _for_. For instance, individuals are sovereigns and the land
belongs to everyone!


Afghanistan and Iraq cost way more because they were done wrong, with a
gradual build up, rather than with overwhelming force in a matter of days,
or weeks, are at most months.

While it may seem imperative to invade Iraq immediately, and strategic use
of forces where clearly effective is certainly warranted, we must think
carefully before striking, because an ineffective attack plan could leave us
fighting in Iraq for 5+ years, while an effective attack plan 1 year from
now (and one year is going to pass) could wrap up the problem in a matter of
weeks or months.
Joe Cooper
2015-03-08 20:59:18 UTC
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Post by Sovereign of the Universe
The U.S. along with the United Nations should begin preparing war
plans for a 40 Nation, 2,000,000 man invasion of Iraq. If ISIL does
not cease,
That would require leadership. In the United States at the moment there is
none. Barack Obama and the Muslim Brotherhood sleep together.
--
"Next question: Why hasn’t Obama ordered the Marine commandant at
Guantanamo Bay to stop providing an Islamic diet, prayer beads, prayer
rugs, and Korans to prisoners affiliated with al Qaeda, ISIL and other
terrorist groups if they’re not Islamic?" (Jan LaRue:
http://bit.ly/1ucU6Zp)

"Never underestimate the willingness of white progressives to be offended
on behalf of people who aren’t and to impose their will on those who didn’t
ask for it." (Derek Hunter)

"As Lincoln noted, 'unanimity is impossible; … so that, rejecting the
majority principle, anarchy or despotism … is all that is left.' Boehner’s
continued Speakership demonstrates that there is now no way for a majority
of voters to obtain representatives who will represent them; and no way to
compel a purportedly representative government to comply with their clear
wishes on matters they consider most crucial." (Lester Jackson)
Eagle
2015-09-26 18:35:31 UTC
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Post by Joe Cooper
Post by Sovereign of the Universe
The U.S. along with the United Nations should begin preparing war
plans for a 40 Nation, 2,000,000 man invasion of Iraq. If ISIL does
not cease,
That would require leadership. In the United States at the moment there is
none. Barack Obama and the Muslim Brotherhood sleep together.
I guess you forgot it was Obama that set in motion the killing of Bin
Ladden?
Post by Joe Cooper
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"Next question: Why hasn’t Obama ordered the Marine commandant at
Guantanamo Bay to stop providing an Islamic diet, prayer beads, prayer
rugs, and Korans to prisoners affiliated with al Qaeda, ISIL and other
http://bit.ly/1ucU6Zp)
"Never underestimate the willingness of white progressives to be offended
on behalf of people who aren’t and to impose their will on those who didn’t
ask for it." (Derek Hunter)
"As Lincoln noted, 'unanimity is impossible; … so that, rejecting the
majority principle, anarchy or despotism … is all that is left.' Boehner’s
continued Speakership demonstrates that there is now no way for a majority
of voters to obtain representatives who will represent them; and no way to
compel a purportedly representative government to comply with their clear
wishes on matters they consider most crucial." (Lester Jackson)
Joe Cooper
2015-09-28 18:35:05 UTC
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Post by Joe Cooper
That would require leadership. In the United States at the moment
there is none. Barack Obama and the Muslim Brotherhood sleep
together.
I guess you forgot it was Obama that set in motion the killing of Bin
Ladden?
So what? One former CIA agent claims he was forced to off bin Laden:

"In addition, Lopez claims that the only reason Obama approved of the
killing of Osama bin Laden is he simply couldn’t ignore the chance without
looking suspicious. The opportunity presented himself, and he “couldn’t
delay it any longe" (CIA Officer Clair Lopez: Obama is a Muslim Terrorist
with Brotherhood Ties to Take Down USA: http://bit.ly/1KEjn6x)

Interesting POV
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Wake up, America

"Never underestimate the willingness of white progressives to be offended
on behalf of people who aren’t and to impose their will on those who didn’t
ask for it." (Derek Hunter)

"Liberals never argue with one another over substance; their only dispute
is how to prevent the public from figuring out what they really believe."
(Ann Coulter)
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