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WHAT ARE THE INGREDIENTS OF BEHAVIORAL CHARACTERISTICS TO COMMIT MASS
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Aviroce
2012-12-19 05:22:05 UTC
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WHAT ARE THE INGREDIENTS OF BEHAVIORAL CHARACTERISTICS TO COMMIT MASS
MURDER?
By Aviroce
One wonders why certain people go for the extreme end to commit mass
murder. Is it true that such people feel if they want to kill one,
why not two. If two are to be killed, why not three. And so on.
That
is committing one murder is the same as committing many murders.
Just
keep the ball rolling. Does life mean anything to these people? Are
these people committing mass murder to glorify their ego? Are these
people naive to imitate violent movies, to excel in killing? In the
"The Stranger" by Camus, he kills a man because the sun hits his
eyes. In "Swordfish" the movie, "5,4,3,2,1 You just want to die."
And in an English movie, a girl does 100 jumps with a jump rope and
for each jump she names a star or planet. After that she no longer
counts. When asked why? Her answer was ,"After a hundred, they are
all the same." Mind you counting to the hundred was associated
either
with killing a human or animal. A mother and her two daughters just
keep killing one man after another while the movie is interrupted by
games people play and killing is just one game. The mother and her
two daughters even kill the coroner who falsified the records of
murders just aspiring to have sex with them all. Carefree with
impunity.

On the state level, we see our country which idealizes life within
our
society, commits atrocities against other nations with impunity.
Might is right. USA has no shame and no fear committing murders and
our state murderers get away with it with impunity. Sometimes we
glorify their acts and sometimes we know they committed crimes
against
humanity and we close our eyes and ears and dismiss these facts and
provide explanations that don't make sense. If life is not important
on the other side, why should it be important on this side? Is this
a
good reason to commit atrocities? There is no war that USA undertook
without changing the behavior of the American people. Is it possible
that some people resort to killing their own as a result? Why then
Jews do not seem to have this anomaly? Jews would stab a woman in
her
belly, get her fetus out, chop the fetus over her breasts, and cut
the
woman's head off and parade it in Deir Yaseen. Why Jews don't seem
to
do that to other Jews? Are they doing it and we don't know about it?
They merely quash the media.
Is mass murder intended for entertainment, "Amusing ourselves to
death?" When Jews committed the crimes of betrayal to their mother
country Germany, Adolph Hitler wanted to punish them. That is what
humanity does to traitors. These Jews basically were killed in self-
defense. They deserved it. Hitler did not fulfill his will to
punish
them all as they have been evil to the German people. But then such
mass murder has survival value which is acceptable for the
continuation and development of life.
Is the murderer in Newtown a Jew? Are most of the children killed
Jews? Was he retaliating against Jews for attempting to annihilate
Palestinians and steal their land? I can see many ways for some
people to commit mass murder. Is there a general phenomenon
associated with these murderers? Do they think they are going to get
away with it? Well Hitler was defeated and killed. But look at
George W. Bush he is still alive and kicking. He has faded among the
people as he is a nobody. But no one can dare to put the rope around
his neck and hang him according to state and international laws. So
he committed atrocities with impunity. Was Lanza thinking he would
be
like Bush II? One thing is certain, those who take away life, have
no
respect for life and accordingly they should not live without the
final punishment. Again, like Counting by Numbers, if you count to a
hundred stars, then you may stop counting as there is an innumerable
number of stars, the first hundred is the same as the second hundred.
Again, was the creator of the movie a sadist? No respect for life
just like Bush II, Lanza, Hitler, Jews, Stalin.
Aviroce
HHW
2012-12-19 06:15:20 UTC
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Post by Aviroce
WHAT ARE THE INGREDIENTS OF BEHAVIORAL CHARACTERISTICS TO COMMIT MASS
MURDER?
By Aviroce
One wonders why certain people go for the extreme end to commit mass
murder.  Is it true that such people feel if they want to kill one,
why not two.  If two are to be killed, why not three. And so on.
That
is committing one murder is the same as committing many murders.
Just
keep the ball rolling.  Does life mean anything to these people?  Are
these people committing mass murder to glorify their ego?  Are these
people naive to imitate violent movies, to excel in killing?  In the
"The Stranger" by Camus, he kills a man because the sun hits his
eyes.  In "Swordfish" the movie, "5,4,3,2,1 You just want to die."
And in an English movie, a girl does 100 jumps with a jump rope and
for each jump she names a star or planet.  After that she no longer
counts.  When asked why? Her answer was ,"After a hundred, they are
all the same."  Mind you counting to the hundred was associated
either
with killing a human or animal.  A mother and her two daughters just
keep killing one man after another while the movie is interrupted by
games people play and killing is just one game.  The mother and her
two daughters even kill the coroner who falsified the records of
murders just aspiring to have sex with them all.  Carefree with
impunity.
On the state level, we see our country which idealizes life within
our
society, commits atrocities against other nations with impunity.
Might is right.  USA has no shame and no fear committing murders and
our state murderers get away with it with impunity.  Sometimes we
glorify their acts and sometimes we know they committed crimes
against
humanity and we close our eyes and ears and dismiss these facts and
provide explanations that don't make sense.  If life is not important
on the other side, why should it be important on this side?  Is this
a
good reason to commit atrocities?  There is no war that USA undertook
without changing the behavior of the American people.  Is it possible
that some people resort to killing their own as a result?  Why then
Jews do not seem to have this anomaly?  Jews would stab a woman in
her
belly, get her fetus out, chop the fetus over her breasts, and cut
the
woman's head off and parade it in Deir Yaseen.  Why Jews don't seem
to
do that to other Jews?  Are they doing it and we don't know about it?
They merely quash the media.
Is mass murder intended for entertainment, "Amusing ourselves to
death?"  When Jews committed the crimes of betrayal to their mother
country Germany, Adolph Hitler wanted to punish them.  That is what
humanity does to traitors.  These Jews basically were killed in self-
defense.  They deserved it.  Hitler did not fulfill his will to
punish
them all as they have been evil to the German people.  But then such
mass murder has survival value which is acceptable for the
continuation and development of life.
Is the murderer in Newtown a Jew?  Are most of the children killed
Jews?  Was he retaliating against Jews for attempting to annihilate
Palestinians and steal their land?  I can see many ways for some
people to commit mass murder.  Is there a general phenomenon
associated with these murderers?  Do they think they are going to get
away with it?  Well Hitler was defeated and killed.  But look at
George W. Bush he is still alive and kicking.  He has faded among the
people as he is a nobody.  But no one can dare to put the rope around
his neck and hang him according to state and international laws.  So
he committed atrocities with impunity.  Was Lanza thinking he would
be
like Bush II?  One thing is certain, those who take away life, have
no
respect for life and accordingly they should not live without the
final punishment.  Again, like Counting by Numbers, if you count to a
hundred stars, then you may stop counting as there is an innumerable
number of stars, the first hundred is the same as the second hundred.
Again, was the creator of the movie a sadist?  No respect for life
just like Bush II, Lanza, Hitler, Jews, Stalin.
Aviroce
It appears that Lanza was mentally ill. We must be careful not to
equate mental illness with evil. We've got to get this right.
Aviroce
2012-12-19 17:07:14 UTC
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THIS CAN BE SAID ABOUT EVERY MASS MURDERER. HOW ABOUT BITCH II? HOW
ABOUT HITLER? STALIN? JABOTONSKI? BEGIN?SHARON? THIS AFFINITY TO KILL
MANY PEOPLE CAN BE CALLED "SICKNESS" AT ANY TIME AND ANYWHERE AND WITH
EVERYONE. WHAT YOU MAY REFER TO IS THE SETTING. HAVE YOUR EVER
THOUGHT OF "WHITE MAN'S BURDEN" AND COMPARED IT TO "BLACK MAN'S
BURDEN." YOU ESTABLISH A PHILOSOPHICAL SETTING TO MAKE KILLING OTHERS
PERMISSIBLE. SOMETIMES IT IS AN INDIVIDUAL SETTING AND SOMETIMES IT
IS A GROUP SETTING AND IT CAN START WITH AN INDIVIDUAL SETTING AND
DEVELOP A GROUP SETTING.
Post by HHW
Post by Aviroce
WHAT ARE THE INGREDIENTS OF BEHAVIORAL CHARACTERISTICS TO COMMIT MASS
MURDER?
By Aviroce
One wonders why certain people go for the extreme end to commit mass
murder.  Is it true that such people feel if they want to kill one,
why not two.  If two are to be killed, why not three. And so on.
That
is committing one murder is the same as committing many murders.
Just
keep the ball rolling.  Does life mean anything to these people?  Are
these people committing mass murder to glorify their ego?  Are these
people naive to imitate violent movies, to excel in killing?  In the
"The Stranger" by Camus, he kills a man because the sun hits his
eyes.  In "Swordfish" the movie, "5,4,3,2,1 You just want to die."
And in an English movie, a girl does 100 jumps with a jump rope and
for each jump she names a star or planet.  After that she no longer
counts.  When asked why? Her answer was ,"After a hundred, they are
all the same."  Mind you counting to the hundred was associated
either
with killing a human or animal.  A mother and her two daughters just
keep killing one man after another while the movie is interrupted by
games people play and killing is just one game.  The mother and her
two daughters even kill the coroner who falsified the records of
murders just aspiring to have sex with them all.  Carefree with
impunity.
On the state level, we see our country which idealizes life within
our
society, commits atrocities against other nations with impunity.
Might is right.  USA has no shame and no fear committing murders and
our state murderers get away with it with impunity.  Sometimes we
glorify their acts and sometimes we know they committed crimes
against
humanity and we close our eyes and ears and dismiss these facts and
provide explanations that don't make sense.  If life is not important
on the other side, why should it be important on this side?  Is this
a
good reason to commit atrocities?  There is no war that USA undertook
without changing the behavior of the American people.  Is it possible
that some people resort to killing their own as a result?  Why then
Jews do not seem to have this anomaly?  Jews would stab a woman in
her
belly, get her fetus out, chop the fetus over her breasts, and cut
the
woman's head off and parade it in Deir Yaseen.  Why Jews don't seem
to
do that to other Jews?  Are they doing it and we don't know about it?
They merely quash the media.
Is mass murder intended for entertainment, "Amusing ourselves to
death?"  When Jews committed the crimes of betrayal to their mother
country Germany, Adolph Hitler wanted to punish them.  That is what
humanity does to traitors.  These Jews basically were killed in self-
defense.  They deserved it.  Hitler did not fulfill his will to
punish
them all as they have been evil to the German people.  But then such
mass murder has survival value which is acceptable for the
continuation and development of life.
Is the murderer in Newtown a Jew?  Are most of the children killed
Jews?  Was he retaliating against Jews for attempting to annihilate
Palestinians and steal their land?  I can see many ways for some
people to commit mass murder.  Is there a general phenomenon
associated with these murderers?  Do they think they are going to get
away with it?  Well Hitler was defeated and killed.  But look at
George W. Bush he is still alive and kicking.  He has faded among the
people as he is a nobody.  But no one can dare to put the rope around
his neck and hang him according to state and international laws.  So
he committed atrocities with impunity.  Was Lanza thinking he would
be
like Bush II?  One thing is certain, those who take away life, have
no
respect for life and accordingly they should not live without the
final punishment.  Again, like Counting by Numbers, if you count to a
hundred stars, then you may stop counting as there is an innumerable
number of stars, the first hundred is the same as the second hundred.
Again, was the creator of the movie a sadist?  No respect for life
just like Bush II, Lanza, Hitler, Jews, Stalin.
Aviroce
It appears that Lanza was mentally ill. We must be careful not to
equate mental illness with evil. We've got to get this right.- Hide quoted text -
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Ramon F. Herrera
2012-12-19 18:32:54 UTC
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I predicted this tragedy...

Young Lanza was insanely jealous of the children that got a
"superior", "genuine", "real" education. He blamed his craziness on
mom. Similar to "The Sixth Sense".

Q.E.D.

-Ramon

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[Background: Ramon wrote that the demographics have reached the point
of no return:]

http://tinyurl.com/3ftpeyf

Newsgroups: alt.politics.immigration
From: "f.barnes" <***@centurytel.net>
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 14:17:30 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Aug 14 2009 3:17 pm
Subject: Re: This is a perfect motto for the API newsgroup

Maybe it's gone beyond the point of no return and maybe it hasn't. Did
you see all those angry white people at the town hall meetings? Anyone
who thinks that anger is just about health care is an idiot. And for
every angry white person at those meetings there are thousands more
who feel exactly the same way.

We know that for some unknowable reasons our politicians have and are
abetting and encouraging in a third world take over of our country.
And the anger at that is not going away. We are not going to die off,
because many of our children are being home schooled and taught to
believe just as we do. And many of us are having lots of children.
Frankly, I think the brainwashed liberals and the new people will have
to kill us off, if they can.

================================

Newsgroups: alt.politics.immigration
From: Cambridge Ray <***@conexus.net>
Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2011 20:21:13 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sat, Aug 27 2011 9:21 pm
Subject: Re: White Minority = Now in TV Cartoons Too
Parents who can find the time do home schooling or find private
schools that aren't promoting multiculturalism. Smart parents
sometimes choose to get rid of the televisions altogether.
For how long do you suggest the kids should be kept isolated from
reality??

They may grow to despise you, I hope you are aware...

-Ramon
HHW
2012-12-21 18:32:58 UTC
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THIS CAN BE SAID ABOUT EVERY MASS MURDERER.  HOW ABOUT BITCH II?  HOW
ABOUT HITLER? STALIN? JABOTONSKI? BEGIN?SHARON? THIS AFFINITY TO KILL
MANY PEOPLE CAN BE CALLED "SICKNESS" AT ANY TIME AND ANYWHERE AND WITH
EVERYONE.  WHAT YOU MAY REFER TO IS THE SETTING.  HAVE YOUR EVER
THOUGHT OF "WHITE MAN'S BURDEN" AND COMPARED IT TO "BLACK MAN'S
BURDEN."  YOU ESTABLISH A PHILOSOPHICAL SETTING TO MAKE KILLING OTHERS
PERMISSIBLE.  SOMETIMES IT IS AN INDIVIDUAL SETTING AND SOMETIMES IT
IS A GROUP SETTING AND IT CAN START WITH AN INDIVIDUAL SETTING AND
DEVELOP A GROUP SETTING.
I won't be able to explain this to you at length. I believe that both
Hitler and Stalin were sane and thus could have been convicted and
hanged. But I am a product of the Anglo-American legal system. Murder
is a specific intent crime. When the capacity to form the intent
required by law for conviction is destroyed by mental illness the
person can not be convicted much less executed. That doesn't mean he
goes free. It means he is incarcerated for life in a mental
institution. I don't have to apologize for our legal system. It has
developed with careful tending and has ancient roots. It is a living
and even beautiful edifice which you should respect after coming to
understand it.
Aviroce
2012-12-22 04:43:45 UTC
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I am always in and out of court and have many filings. In part
because I manage my real estate holdings in three states. My son is a
recent graduate of law school and his first job ever is becoming the
attorney for Suprerior Court Judge. He plans to become a Federal
Judge after two years.

I respect what you are telling me. For someone who knows right and
wrong, committing mass murder is different than someone who does not.
All that is within the same society goverened by the same laws. In
this case, both have the same setting and the same laws. Bitch II
knows what's right and what's wrong and he is in the same society,
same setting, and he is a free man because he was not prosecuted. He
committed crimes against Americans and against humanity and he is a
free man. He is not considered a criminal and a mass murderer. Yet
he is. No one is willing to prosecute him for that. Bitch II is not
any different than Lanza. Lanza knew right and wrong with respect to
the setting he was in. Neither one is prosecuted, the first for
failure to prosecute and the second for destruction of perpetrator.
Do you think Hitler was sick to kill so many people? How about
Stalin? How about Sharon, Begin,Natinyaho, Levni, Jabotonski? These
people are not any different than Lanza. People are attempting to
find excuses to appease themselves for Lanza and Americans.
Post by HHW
THIS CAN BE SAID ABOUT EVERY MASS MURDERER.  HOW ABOUT BITCH II?  HOW
ABOUT HITLER? STALIN? JABOTONSKI? BEGIN?SHARON? THIS AFFINITY TO KILL
MANY PEOPLE CAN BE CALLED "SICKNESS" AT ANY TIME AND ANYWHERE AND WITH
EVERYONE.  WHAT YOU MAY REFER TO IS THE SETTING.  HAVE YOUR EVER
THOUGHT OF "WHITE MAN'S BURDEN" AND COMPARED IT TO "BLACK MAN'S
BURDEN."  YOU ESTABLISH A PHILOSOPHICAL SETTING TO MAKE KILLING OTHERS
PERMISSIBLE.  SOMETIMES IT IS AN INDIVIDUAL SETTING AND SOMETIMES IT
IS A GROUP SETTING AND IT CAN START WITH AN INDIVIDUAL SETTING AND
DEVELOP A GROUP SETTING.
I won't be able to explain this to you at length. I believe that both
Hitler and Stalin were sane and thus could have been convicted and
hanged. But I am a product of the Anglo-American legal system. Murder
is a specific intent crime. When the capacity to form the intent
required by law for conviction is destroyed by mental illness the
person can not be convicted much less executed. That doesn't mean he
goes free. It means he is incarcerated for life in a mental
institution. I don't have to apologize for our legal system. It has
developed with careful tending and has ancient roots. It is a living
and even beautiful edifice which you should respect after coming to
understand it.
Aviroce
2012-12-22 05:04:03 UTC
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I am always in and out of court and have many filings.  In part
because I manage my real estate holdings in three states. My son is a
recent graduate of law school and his first job ever is becoming the
attorney for Suprerior Court Judge.  He plans to become a Federal
Judge after two years.
I respect what you are telling me.  For someone who knows right and
wrong, committing mass murder is different than someone who does not.
All that is within the same society goverened by the same laws.  In
this case, both have the same setting and the same laws.  Bitch II
knows what's right and what's wrong and he is in the same society,
same setting, and he is a free man because he was not prosecuted.  He
committed crimes against Americans and against humanity and he is a
free man.  He is not considered a criminal and a mass murderer.  Yet
he is.  No one is willing to prosecute him for that.  Bitch II is not
any different than Lanza.  Lanza knew right and wrong with respect to
the setting he was in.  Neither one is prosecuted, the first for
failure to prosecute and the second for destruction of perpetrator.
Do you think Hitler was sick to kill so many people?  How about
Stalin?  How about Sharon, Begin,Natinyaho, Levni, Jabotonski?  These
people are not any different than Lanza.  People are attempting to
find excuses to appease themselves for Lanza and Americans.
Post by HHW
THIS CAN BE SAID ABOUT EVERY MASS MURDERER.  HOW ABOUT BITCH II?  HOW
ABOUT HITLER? STALIN? JABOTONSKI? BEGIN?SHARON? THIS AFFINITY TO KILL
MANY PEOPLE CAN BE CALLED "SICKNESS" AT ANY TIME AND ANYWHERE AND WITH
EVERYONE.  WHAT YOU MAY REFER TO IS THE SETTING.  HAVE YOUR EVER
THOUGHT OF "WHITE MAN'S BURDEN" AND COMPARED IT TO "BLACK MAN'S
BURDEN."  YOU ESTABLISH A PHILOSOPHICAL SETTING TO MAKE KILLING OTHERS
PERMISSIBLE.  SOMETIMES IT IS AN INDIVIDUAL SETTING AND SOMETIMES IT
IS A GROUP SETTING AND IT CAN START WITH AN INDIVIDUAL SETTING AND
DEVELOP A GROUP SETTING.
I won't be able to explain this to you at length. I believe that both
Hitler and Stalin were sane and thus could have been convicted and
hanged. But I am a product of the Anglo-American legal system. Murder
is a specific intent crime. When the capacity to form the intent
required by law for conviction is destroyed by mental illness the
person can not be convicted much less executed. That doesn't mean he
goes free. It means he is incarcerated for life in a mental
institution. I don't have to apologize for our legal system. It has
developed with careful tending and has ancient roots. It is a living
and even beautiful edifice which you should respect after coming to
understand it.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Knowing right and wrong gets conviction. Being sick, would only
provide for treatment once conviction is rendered.
HHW
2012-12-23 21:13:22 UTC
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I am always in and out of court and have many filings.  In part
because I manage my real estate holdings in three states. My son is a
recent graduate of law school and his first job ever is becoming the
attorney for Suprerior Court Judge.  He plans to become a Federal
Judge after two years.
I respect what you are telling me.  For someone who knows right and
wrong, committing mass murder is different than someone who does not.
All that is within the same society goverened by the same laws.  In
this case, both have the same setting and the same laws.  Bitch II
knows what's right and what's wrong and he is in the same society,
same setting, and he is a free man because he was not prosecuted.  He
committed crimes against Americans and against humanity and he is a
free man.  He is not considered a criminal and a mass murderer.  Yet
he is.  No one is willing to prosecute him for that.  Bitch II is not
any different than Lanza.  Lanza knew right and wrong with respect to
the setting he was in.  Neither one is prosecuted, the first for
failure to prosecute and the second for destruction of perpetrator.
Do you think Hitler was sick to kill so many people?  How about
Stalin?  How about Sharon, Begin,Natinyaho, Levni, Jabotonski?  These
people are not any different than Lanza.  People are attempting to
find excuses to appease themselves for Lanza and Americans.
Post by HHW
THIS CAN BE SAID ABOUT EVERY MASS MURDERER.  HOW ABOUT BITCH II?  HOW
ABOUT HITLER? STALIN? JABOTONSKI? BEGIN?SHARON? THIS AFFINITY TO KILL
MANY PEOPLE CAN BE CALLED "SICKNESS" AT ANY TIME AND ANYWHERE AND WITH
EVERYONE.  WHAT YOU MAY REFER TO IS THE SETTING.  HAVE YOUR EVER
THOUGHT OF "WHITE MAN'S BURDEN" AND COMPARED IT TO "BLACK MAN'S
BURDEN."  YOU ESTABLISH A PHILOSOPHICAL SETTING TO MAKE KILLING OTHERS
PERMISSIBLE.  SOMETIMES IT IS AN INDIVIDUAL SETTING AND SOMETIMES IT
IS A GROUP SETTING AND IT CAN START WITH AN INDIVIDUAL SETTING AND
DEVELOP A GROUP SETTING.
I won't be able to explain this to you at length. I believe that both
Hitler and Stalin were sane and thus could have been convicted and
hanged. But I am a product of the Anglo-American legal system. Murder
is a specific intent crime. When the capacity to form the intent
required by law for conviction is destroyed by mental illness the
person can not be convicted much less executed. That doesn't mean he
goes free. It means he is incarcerated for life in a mental
institution. I don't have to apologize for our legal system. It has
developed with careful tending and has ancient roots. It is a living
and even beautiful edifice which you should respect after coming to
understand it.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Knowing right and wrong gets conviction.  Being sick, would only
provide for treatment once conviction is rendered.
That's it. Inside the system we take pride in the humane exercise of
this restraint. We don't execute convicted murderers who become insane
after conviction either.
HHW
2012-12-23 21:36:58 UTC
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Post by HHW
I am always in and out of court and have many filings.  In part
because I manage my real estate holdings in three states. My son is a
recent graduate of law school and his first job ever is becoming the
attorney for Suprerior Court Judge.  He plans to become a Federal
Judge after two years.
I respect what you are telling me.  For someone who knows right and
wrong, committing mass murder is different than someone who does not.
All that is within the same society goverened by the same laws.  In
this case, both have the same setting and the same laws.  Bitch II
knows what's right and what's wrong and he is in the same society,
same setting, and he is a free man because he was not prosecuted.  He
committed crimes against Americans and against humanity and he is a
free man.  He is not considered a criminal and a mass murderer.  Yet
he is.  No one is willing to prosecute him for that.  Bitch II is not
any different than Lanza.  Lanza knew right and wrong with respect to
the setting he was in.  Neither one is prosecuted, the first for
failure to prosecute and the second for destruction of perpetrator.
Do you think Hitler was sick to kill so many people?  How about
Stalin?  How about Sharon, Begin,Natinyaho, Levni, Jabotonski?  These
people are not any different than Lanza.  People are attempting to
find excuses to appease themselves for Lanza and Americans.
Post by HHW
THIS CAN BE SAID ABOUT EVERY MASS MURDERER.  HOW ABOUT BITCH II?  HOW
ABOUT HITLER? STALIN? JABOTONSKI? BEGIN?SHARON? THIS AFFINITY TO KILL
MANY PEOPLE CAN BE CALLED "SICKNESS" AT ANY TIME AND ANYWHERE AND WITH
EVERYONE.  WHAT YOU MAY REFER TO IS THE SETTING.  HAVE YOUR EVER
THOUGHT OF "WHITE MAN'S BURDEN" AND COMPARED IT TO "BLACK MAN'S
BURDEN."  YOU ESTABLISH A PHILOSOPHICAL SETTING TO MAKE KILLING OTHERS
PERMISSIBLE.  SOMETIMES IT IS AN INDIVIDUAL SETTING AND SOMETIMES IT
IS A GROUP SETTING AND IT CAN START WITH AN INDIVIDUAL SETTING AND
DEVELOP A GROUP SETTING.
I won't be able to explain this to you at length. I believe that both
Hitler and Stalin were sane and thus could have been convicted and
hanged. But I am a product of the Anglo-American legal system. Murder
is a specific intent crime. When the capacity to form the intent
required by law for conviction is destroyed by mental illness the
person can not be convicted much less executed. That doesn't mean he
goes free. It means he is incarcerated for life in a mental
institution. I don't have to apologize for our legal system. It has
developed with careful tending and has ancient roots. It is a living
and even beautiful edifice which you should respect after coming to
understand it.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Knowing right and wrong gets conviction.  Being sick, would only
provide for treatment once conviction is rendered.
That's it. Inside the system we take pride in the humane exercise of
this restraint. We don't execute convicted murderers who become insane
after conviction either.
Aviroce, please, who is Bitch II.
Aviroce
2012-12-27 05:50:43 UTC
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Bush II and we have Bush I. Bush II is real mentally retarded son of
a bitch and I call him Bitch II.
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I am always in and out of court and have many filings.  In part
because I manage my real estate holdings in three states. My son is a
recent graduate of law school and his first job ever is becoming the
attorney for Suprerior Court Judge.  He plans to become a Federal
Judge after two years.
I respect what you are telling me.  For someone who knows right and
wrong, committing mass murder is different than someone who does not.
All that is within the same society goverened by the same laws.  In
this case, both have the same setting and the same laws.  Bitch II
knows what's right and what's wrong and he is in the same society,
same setting, and he is a free man because he was not prosecuted.  He
committed crimes against Americans and against humanity and he is a
free man.  He is not considered a criminal and a mass murderer.  Yet
he is.  No one is willing to prosecute him for that.  Bitch II is not
any different than Lanza.  Lanza knew right and wrong with respect to
the setting he was in.  Neither one is prosecuted, the first for
failure to prosecute and the second for destruction of perpetrator.
Do you think Hitler was sick to kill so many people?  How about
Stalin?  How about Sharon, Begin,Natinyaho, Levni, Jabotonski?  These
people are not any different than Lanza.  People are attempting to
find excuses to appease themselves for Lanza and Americans.
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THIS CAN BE SAID ABOUT EVERY MASS MURDERER.  HOW ABOUT BITCH II?  HOW
ABOUT HITLER? STALIN? JABOTONSKI? BEGIN?SHARON? THIS AFFINITY TO KILL
MANY PEOPLE CAN BE CALLED "SICKNESS" AT ANY TIME AND ANYWHERE AND WITH
EVERYONE.  WHAT YOU MAY REFER TO IS THE SETTING.  HAVE YOUR EVER
THOUGHT OF "WHITE MAN'S BURDEN" AND COMPARED IT TO "BLACK MAN'S
BURDEN."  YOU ESTABLISH A PHILOSOPHICAL SETTING TO MAKE KILLING OTHERS
PERMISSIBLE.  SOMETIMES IT IS AN INDIVIDUAL SETTING AND SOMETIMES IT
IS A GROUP SETTING AND IT CAN START WITH AN INDIVIDUAL SETTING AND
DEVELOP A GROUP SETTING.
I won't be able to explain this to you at length. I believe that both
Hitler and Stalin were sane and thus could have been convicted and
hanged. But I am a product of the Anglo-American legal system. Murder
is a specific intent crime. When the capacity to form the intent
required by law for conviction is destroyed by mental illness the
person can not be convicted much less executed. That doesn't mean he
goes free. It means he is incarcerated for life in a mental
institution. I don't have to apologize for our legal system. It has
developed with careful tending and has ancient roots. It is a living
and even beautiful edifice which you should respect after coming to
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Knowing right and wrong gets conviction.  Being sick, would only
provide for treatment once conviction is rendered.
That's it. Inside the system we take pride in the humane exercise of
this restraint. We don't execute convicted murderers who become insane
after conviction either.
Aviroce, please, who is Bitch II.
Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E
2012-12-19 18:44:54 UTC
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WHAT ARE THE INGREDIENTS OF BEHAVIORAL CHARACTERISTICS TO COMMIT MASS
MURDER?
By Aviroce
One wonders why certain people go for the extreme end to commit mass
murder.  Is it true that such people feel if they want to kill one,
why not two.  If two are to be killed, why not three. And so on.
That
is committing one murder is the same as committing many murders.
Just
keep the ball rolling.  Does life mean anything to these people?  Are
these people committing mass murder to glorify their ego?  Are these
people naive to imitate violent movies, to excel in killing?  In the
"The Stranger" by Camus, he kills a man because the sun hits his
eyes.  In "Swordfish" the movie, "5,4,3,2,1 You just want to die."
And in an English movie, a girl does 100 jumps with a jump rope and
for each jump she names a star or planet.  After that she no longer
counts.  When asked why? Her answer was ,"After a hundred, they are
all the same."  Mind you counting to the hundred was associated
either
with killing a human or animal.  A mother and her two daughters just
keep killing one man after another while the movie is interrupted by
games people play and killing is just one game.  The mother and her
two daughters even kill the coroner who falsified the records of
murders just aspiring to have sex with them all.  Carefree with
impunity.
On the state level, we see our country which idealizes life within
our
society, commits atrocities against other nations with impunity.
Might is right.  USA has no shame and no fear committing murders and
our state murderers get away with it with impunity.  Sometimes we
glorify their acts and sometimes we know they committed crimes
against
humanity and we close our eyes and ears and dismiss these facts and
provide explanations that don't make sense.  If life is not important
on the other side, why should it be important on this side?  Is this
a
good reason to commit atrocities?  There is no war that USA undertook
without changing the behavior of the American people.  Is it possible
that some people resort to killing their own as a result?  Why then
Jews do not seem to have this anomaly?  Jews would stab a woman in
her
belly, get her fetus out, chop the fetus over her breasts, and cut
the
woman's head off and parade it in Deir Yaseen.  Why Jews don't seem
to
do that to other Jews?  Are they doing it and we don't know about it?
They merely quash the media.
Is mass murder intended for entertainment, "Amusing ourselves to
death?"  When Jews committed the crimes of betrayal to their mother
country Germany, Adolph Hitler wanted to punish them.  That is what
humanity does to traitors.  These Jews basically were killed in self-
defense.  They deserved it.  Hitler did not fulfill his will to
punish
them all as they have been evil to the German people.  But then such
mass murder has survival value which is acceptable for the
continuation and development of life.
Is the murderer in Newtown a Jew?  Are most of the children killed
Jews?  Was he retaliating against Jews for attempting to annihilate
Palestinians and steal their land?  I can see many ways for some
people to commit mass murder.  Is there a general phenomenon
associated with these murderers?  Do they think they are going to get
away with it?  Well Hitler was defeated and killed.  But look at
George W. Bush he is still alive and kicking.  He has faded among the
people as he is a nobody.  But no one can dare to put the rope around
his neck and hang him according to state and international laws.  So
he committed atrocities with impunity.  Was Lanza thinking he would
be
like Bush II?  One thing is certain, those who take away life, have
no
respect for life and accordingly they should not live without the
final punishment.  Again, like Counting by Numbers, if you count to a
hundred stars, then you may stop counting as there is an innumerable
number of stars, the first hundred is the same as the second hundred.
Again, was the creator of the movie a sadist?  No respect for life
just like Bush II, Lanza, Hitler, Jews, Stalin.
Aviroce
It appears that Lanza was mentally ill. We must be careful not to
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He was also a vegan. A sure sign of mental instability.
Lawrence Johnson
2012-12-19 18:24:38 UTC
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WHAT ARE THE INGREDIENTS OF BEHAVIORAL CHARACTERISTICS TO COMMIT MASS
MURDER?
It helps if you're Muslim.
Aviroce
2012-12-20 20:45:14 UTC
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Funny you are saying that. You sound like Natinyaho who might be the
one who killed our four men in Libya (See my article above.)
If you look at Islamic history and conquests, you will find that such
conquests were done easily and with the least blood. A Muslim army
would declare attack on a country, face the opposite army, get its
leadership and declare victory without engaging the population.
Compare that to Alexander the Great, who is mentioned in the Koran as
the Man with Two Horns, and his people "Will win against their
enemy." Contrast that with Jew invasions and USA invasions. Muslims
at the end of their fight would establish a small village outside all
the towns where people would come to them and learn about Islamic
Social System. They would convert to Islam.
Present fighting among Palestinians, Arabs and Muslim have been the
method used by the West, Israel and USA and previously European
countries, to divide the Palestinians, Arabs and Muslims, degrade
their animosity to Israel and USA and have the latter control their
countries and their people.
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WHAT ARE THE INGREDIENTS OF BEHAVIORAL CHARACTERISTICS TO COMMIT MASS
MURDER?
It helps if you're Muslim.
HHW
2012-12-23 20:38:57 UTC
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Funny you are saying that.  You sound like Natinyaho who might be the
one who killed our four men in Libya (See my article above.)
If you look at Islamic history and conquests, you will find that such
conquests were done easily and with the least blood.  A Muslim army
would declare attack on a country, face the opposite army, get its
leadership and declare victory without engaging the population.
Compare that to Alexander the Great, who is mentioned in the Koran as
the Man with Two Horns, and his people "Will win against their
enemy."  Contrast that with Jew invasions and USA invasions.  Muslims
at the end of their fight would establish a small village outside all
the towns where people would come to them and learn about Islamic
Social System.  They would convert to Islam.
Present fighting among Palestinians, Arabs and Muslim have been the
method used by the West, Israel and USA and previously European
countries, to divide the Palestinians, Arabs and Muslims, degrade
their animosity to Israel and USA and have the latter control their
countries and their people.
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WHAT ARE THE INGREDIENTS OF BEHAVIORAL CHARACTERISTICS TO COMMIT MASS
MURDER?
It helps if you're Muslim.
The behavior of activist *Jewish* Zionists *generally* is beneath
contempt. Their attitude toward the American people is inexcusable.
I've been here for something like a decade and I haven't seen a
bright
spot in it yet. The Christian Zionists, benighted as they are, are
infinitely more principled and civilized.
Aviroce
2012-12-20 21:04:01 UTC
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Funny you are saying that. You sound like Natinyaho who might be the
one who killed our four men in Libya (See my article above.)
If you look at Islamic history and conquests, you will find that such
conquests were done easily and with the least blood. A Muslim army
would declare attack on a country, face the opposite army, get its
leadership and declare victory without engaging the population.
Compare that to Alexander the Great, who is mentioned in the Koran as
the Man with Two Horns, and his people "Will win against their
enemy." Contrast that with Jew invasions and USA invasions. Muslims
at the end of their fight would establish a small village outside all
the towns where people would come to them and learn about Islamic
Social System. They would convert to Islam.
Present fighting among Palestinians, Arabs and Muslim have been the
method used by the West, Israel and USA and previously European
countries, to divide the Palestinians, Arabs and Muslims, degrade
their animosity to Israel and USA and have the latter control their
countries and their people.
Post by Lawrence Johnson
Post by Aviroce
WHAT ARE THE INGREDIENTS OF BEHAVIORAL CHARACTERISTICS TO COMMIT MASS
MURDER?
It helps if you're Muslim.
HHW
2012-12-21 18:33:57 UTC
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WHAT ARE THE INGREDIENTS OF BEHAVIORAL CHARACTERISTICS TO COMMIT MASS
MURDER?
It helps if you're Muslim.
"Muslims" did not create Israel.
HHW
2012-12-23 20:28:13 UTC
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WHAT ARE THE INGREDIENTS OF BEHAVIORAL CHARACTERISTICS TO COMMIT MASS
MURDER?
It helps if you're Muslim.
The behavior of activist *Jewish* Zionists *generally* is beneath
contempt. Their attitude toward the American people is inexcusable.
I've been here for something like a decade and I haven't seen a
bright
spot in it yet. The Christian Zionists, benighted as they are, are
infinitely more principled and civilized.
John Manning
2012-12-19 18:40:04 UTC
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WHAT ARE THE INGREDIENTS OF BEHAVIORAL CHARACTERISTICS TO COMMIT MASS
MURDER?
By Aviroce
It helps if you're a Muslim.
Aviroce
2012-12-20 21:04:24 UTC
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Funny you are saying that. You sound like Natinyaho who might be the
one who killed our four men in Libya (See my article above.)
If you look at Islamic history and conquests, you will find that such
conquests were done easily and with the least blood. A Muslim army
would declare attack on a country, face the opposite army, get its
leadership and declare victory without engaging the population.
Compare that to Alexander the Great, who is mentioned in the Koran as
the Man with Two Horns, and his people "Will win against their
enemy." Contrast that with Jew invasions and USA invasions. Muslims
at the end of their fight would establish a small village outside all
the towns where people would come to them and learn about Islamic
Social System. They would convert to Islam.
Present fighting among Palestinians, Arabs and Muslim have been the
method used by the West, Israel and USA and previously European
countries, to divide the Palestinians, Arabs and Muslims, degrade
their animosity to Israel and USA and have the latter control their
countries and their people.
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WHAT ARE THE INGREDIENTS OF BEHAVIORAL CHARACTERISTICS TO COMMIT MASS
MURDER?
By Aviroce
It helps if you're a Muslim.
Lawrence Johnson
2012-12-20 21:11:37 UTC
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WHAT ARE THE INGREDIENTS OF BEHAVIORAL CHARACTERISTICS TO COMMIT MASS
MURDER?
By Aviroce
Main ingredient: Islam.
rst9
2012-12-20 23:15:41 UTC
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WHAT ARE THE INGREDIENTS OF BEHAVIORAL
CHARACTERISTICS TO COMMIT MASS MURDER?
By Aviroce
Main ingredient: Islam.
No, not Islam. Western Powers greed for money, land, sex, slaves,...
taking by the West with the power of the gun.

The Muslims are only fighting back after many many years of abused,
being kicked around, being stump on,...
John Manning
2012-12-21 00:34:27 UTC
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WHAT ARE THE INGREDIENTS OF BEHAVIORAL
CHARACTERISTICS TO COMMIT MASS MURDER?
By Aviroce
Main ingredient: Islam.
No, not Islam.  Western Powers greed for money, land, sex, slaves,...
taking by the West with the power of the gun.
The Muslims are only fighting back after many many years of abused,
being kicked around, being stump on,...
Dude, what have you been smoking? Will you share?
rst9
2012-12-21 02:14:41 UTC
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WHAT ARE THE INGREDIENTS OF BEHAVIORAL
CHARACTERISTICS TO COMMIT MASS MURDER?
By Aviroce
Main ingredient: Islam.
No, not Islam.  Western Powers greed for money, land, sex, slaves,...
taking by the West with the power of the gun.
The Muslims are only fighting back after many many years of abused,
being kicked around, being stump on,...
Dude, what have you been smoking? Will you share?
Open your eyes, and study the history.
HHW
2012-12-23 21:02:44 UTC
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WHAT ARE THE INGREDIENTS OF BEHAVIORAL
CHARACTERISTICS TO COMMIT MASS MURDER?
By Aviroce
Main ingredient: Islam.
No, not Islam.  Western Powers greed for money, land, sex, slaves,...
taking by the West with the power of the gun.
The Muslims are only fighting back after many many years of abused,
being kicked around, being stump on,...
Dude, what have you been smoking? Will you share?
Open your eyes, and study the history.
You're replying to Deborah Sharavi, the most thorough-going Zionist
bitch in the history of these groups. She's symbolic of the Nazi style
that characterizes the effort to shut down debate on America's giant
Israel problem. I use the term Nazi advisedly. They institutionalized
systematic mendacity and she represents it her just as if she had a
*right* to it, an entitlement.
HHW
2012-12-23 20:48:54 UTC
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WHAT ARE THE INGREDIENTS OF BEHAVIORAL
CHARACTERISTICS TO COMMIT MASS MURDER?
By Aviroce
Main ingredient: Islam.
No, not Islam.  Western Powers greed for money, land, sex, slaves,...
taking by the West with the power of the gun.
The Muslims are only fighting back after many many years of abused,
being kicked around, being stump on,...
Exactly. They are resisting colonial invaders from another continent
who have stolen their homeland. And the Israelis and their lobby here
whine endlessly about their occasional feeble efforts to show that
they will not give up. And what do the Israelis do? Massive reprisals
with hundreds dead and wounded and displaced
HHW
2012-12-21 18:36:43 UTC
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WHAT ARE THE INGREDIENTS OF BEHAVIORAL CHARACTERISTICS TO COMMIT MASS
MURDER?
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Main ingredient: Islam.
Self-defeating conflict of interest, ideologically driven blindness,
Ms. Sharavi.
HHW
2012-12-23 20:39:43 UTC
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WHAT ARE THE INGREDIENTS OF BEHAVIORAL CHARACTERISTICS TO COMMIT MASS
MURDER?
By Aviroce
Main ingredient: Islam.
The behavior of activist *Jewish* Zionists *generally* is beneath
contempt. Their attitude toward the American people is inexcusable.
I've been here for something like a decade and I haven't seen a
bright
spot in it yet. The Christian Zionists, benighted as they are, are
infinitely more principled and civilized.
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