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Why Afghans get angrier about burned Qur'ans than about murdered civilians
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j***@satx.rr.com
2012-03-15 19:12:37 UTC
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Why Afghans get angrier about burned Qur'ans than about murdered
civilians
"To Muslims, and especially to Afghans, religion is much higher a
concern than civilian or human casualties." This is very hard for non-
Muslims to understand, even those who are devoutly religious. After
all, isn't each human being valuable as a work of the Creator and
irreplaceable as an individual, while copies of a book that exists in
plentiful copies are obviously more expendable? That's obvious, but it
depends upon the assumption that human life is valuable in the first
place, while in the Islamic schema, Allah creates some people only to
torture them in hellfire (cf. Qur'an 32:13) and directs believers to
murder those who don't believe in him (cf. Qur'an 2:190-193; 4:89;
9:5). Clearly human life is not as important in Islam as it is in
Judaism and Christianity, in which each person is a unique being made
in the image of God.

"In Reactions to Two Incidents, a U.S.-Afghan Disconnect," by Rod
Nordland for the New York Times, March 14 (thanks to Anne Crockett):

KABUL, Afghanistan — The mullah was astounded and a little angered to
be asked why the accidental burning of Korans last month could provoke
violence nationwide, while an intentional mass murder that included
nine children last Sunday did not.
“How can you compare the dishonoring of the Holy Koran with the
martyrdom of innocent civilians?” said an incredulous Mullah Khaliq
Dad, a member of the council of religious leaders who investigated the
Koran burnings. “The whole goal of our life is religion.”

That many Americans are just as surprised that what appears to be the
massacre of 16 people at the hands of an American soldier has not led
to mass protests or revenge killings speaks volumes about a
fundamental disconnect with their Afghan partners, one that has
undermined a longstanding objective to win the hearts and minds of the
population. After more than 10 years, many deaths and billions of
dollars invested, Americans still fail to grasp the Afghans’ basic
values. Faith is paramount and a death can be compensated with blood
money.

“To Muslims, and especially to Afghans, religion is much higher a
concern than civilian or human casualties,” said Hafez Abdul Qayoom, a
member of Afghanistan’s highest clerical body, the Ulema Council.
“When something happens to their religion, they are much more
sensitive and have much stronger reaction to it.”...

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trueman
2012-03-17 12:01:56 UTC
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Why Afghans get angrier about burned Qur'ans than about murdered
civilians
When religion is the very essence of your spiritual being you tend to
get very angry when it is attacked but when your family and your
future generations are wiped out as last week by a group of unjustly
occupying hate filled soldiers of the US army then you would be
deeply shocked, berieved and humbled to an un imaginable grief. But
as
the eventual conquerors the Talibans have already announced, "a
terrible revenge will be extracted from this brutal, unjust and
trigger happy psychotic bully and greedy occupier". Judging by
yesterday's news of a helicopter being downed killing 20 occupying
soldiers the odds seem to be in the Taliban's favor.
j***@satx.rr.com
2012-03-17 16:07:33 UTC
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Mat 5:1 ¶ And seeing the multitudes, he went up into a mountain: and
when he was set, his disciples came unto him:


Mat 5:2 And he opened his mouth, and taught them, saying,


Mat 5:3 Blessed [are] the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom
of heaven.


Mat 5:4 Blessed [are] they that mourn: for they shall be
comforted.


Mat 5:5 Blessed [are] the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.


Mat 5:6 Blessed [are] they which do hunger and thirst after
righteousness: for they shall be filled.


Mat 5:7 Blessed [are] the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy.


Mat 5:8 Blessed [are] the pure in heart: for they shall see God.


Mat 5:9 Blessed [are] the peacemakers: for they shall be called the
children of God.


Mat 5:10 Blessed [are] they which are persecuted for righteousness'
sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.


Mat 5:11 Blessed are ye, when [men] shall revile you, and persecute
[you], and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my
sake.


Mat 5:12 Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great [is] your reward
in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before
you.


Mat 5:13 ¶ Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost
his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for
nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men.


Mat 5:14 Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an
hill cannot be hid.


Mat 5:15 Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel,
but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the
house.


Mat 5:16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your
good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.


Mat 5:17 ¶ Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the
prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.


Mat 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one
jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be
fulfilled.


Mat 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least
commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in
the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach [them], the
same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.


Mat 5:20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall
exceed [the righteousness] of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in
no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.


Mat 5:21 ¶ Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou
shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the
judgment:


Mat 5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his
brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and
whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the
council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of
hell fire.


Mat 5:23 Therefore if thou bring thy gift to the altar, and there
rememberest that thy brother hath ought against thee;


Mat 5:24 Leave there thy gift before the altar, and go thy way;
first be reconciled to thy brother, and then come and offer thy
gift.


Mat 5:25 Agree with thine adversary quickly, whiles thou art in the
way with him; lest at any time the adversary deliver thee to the
judge, and the judge deliver thee to the officer, and thou be cast
into prison.


Mat 5:26 Verily I say unto thee, Thou shalt by no means come out
thence, till thou hast paid the uttermost farthing.


Mat 5:27 ¶ Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou
shalt not commit adultery:


Mat 5:28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to
lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his
heart.


Mat 5:29 And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast
[it] from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members
should perish, and not [that] thy whole body should be cast into
hell.


Mat 5:30 And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast
[it] from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members
should perish, and not [that] thy whole body should be cast into
hell.


Mat 5:31 ¶ It hath been said, Whosoever shall put away his wife, let
him give her a writing of divorcement:


Mat 5:32 But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his
wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit
adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth
adultery.


Mat 5:33 ¶ Again, ye have heard that it hath been said by them of old
time, Thou shalt not forswear thyself, but shalt perform unto the Lord
thine oaths:


Mat 5:34 But I say unto you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven;
for it is God's throne:


Mat 5:35 Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by
Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King.


Mat 5:36 Neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because thou canst
not make one hair white or black.


Mat 5:37 But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for
whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil.


Mat 5:38 ¶ Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye,
and a tooth for a tooth:


Mat 5:39 But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever
shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.


Mat 5:40 And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy
coat, let him have [thy] cloke also.


Mat 5:41 And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him
twain.


Mat 5:42 Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would
borrow of thee turn not thou away.


Mat 5:43 ¶ Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy
neighbour, and hate thine enemy.


Mat 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that
curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which
despitefully use you, and persecute you;


Mat 5:45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in
heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and
sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.


Mat 5:46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye?
do not even the publicans the same?


Mat 5:47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more [than
others]? do not even the publicans so?


Mat 5:48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in
heaven is perfect.
Laughing Muslim
2012-03-17 16:16:06 UTC
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But as
the eventual conquerors the Talibans have already announced, "a
terrible revenge will be extracted from this brutal, unjust and
trigger happy psychotic bully and greedy occupier". Judging by
yesterday's news of a helicopter being downed killing 20 occupying
soldiers the odds seem to be in the Taliban's favor.
Lie-Man, let me help you once again: Over 40,000 Taliban have been
terminated at the hands of US and NATO forces. 10's of thousands of
Afghanistan Civilian Muslims have been killed by the Taliban. And you think
the odds seem to be in the Taliban's favor? I sure hope you don't bet at
Las Vegas.
Nusrat Rizvi
2012-03-17 18:01:00 UTC
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Post by j***@satx.rr.com
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But as
the eventual conquerors the Talibans have already announced, "a
terrible revenge will be extracted from this brutal, unjust and
trigger happy psychotic bully and greedy occupier". Judging by
yesterday's news of a helicopter being downed killing 20 occupying
soldiers the odds seem to be in the Taliban's favor.
Lie-Man, let me help you once again: Over 40,000 Taliban have been
terminated at the hands of US and NATO forces. 10's of thousands of
Afghanistan Civilian Muslims have been killed by the Taliban. And you think
the odds seem to be in the Taliban's favor? I sure hope you don't bet at
Las Vegas.
I regret to have to state that the Pigs are breeding lot faster than
our capacity to eliminate them.
Allah'sWormyAnus
2012-03-17 23:24:01 UTC
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Well, you know it's easier to wipe one's ass with some Koran pages
than with decaying human body parts.

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