Bat Ye'or: A Day at the Museum
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2013-04-12 17:38:23 UTC

Bat Ye'or: A Day at the Museum
A Day at the Museum
by Bat Ye'or
Translated from the French by Jean Szlamowicz

Last December, as I had been invited to give a lecture at a conference
on anti-Semitism in London (2nd December 2012), I decided to make a
quick visit to the British Museum. I used to visit this shrine
dedicated to memory quite frequently with my husband when we were
students at the Institute of Archaeology. But this solitary visit was
a pilgrimage to me.

Right from the main entrance hall you could see the spectacular
sculptures from Assyria and Egypt. There were the breathtakingly
realistic bas-reliefs from the palace of Assyrian King Sennacherib
(705-681 BC) in Nineveh. Their stone engravings told the Biblical
story of the siege of Lachish, in Judea, around 701 BC. You could see
figures of people fighting from the top of the ramparts, others
fleeing the fortress through secret doors and lines of men, women and
children in shackles being taken away. Reduced to slavery the Hebrews
were going to the far away land of Assyria where the enslaved Judeans
would also be deported a century later by Nebuchadnezzar. They would
weep on the shores of Babylon, longing for the beauty of Jerusalem and
Zion. Three thousand years later their lament, echoed through history
from generation to generation, would inspire the genius of Verdi. In
his opera Nabucco, he gave life to their songs in his magnificent ode
to freedom— the Hebrews’ chant.

Further along stands the black obelisk of Shalmaneser (859-824 BC)
with five engraved tiers where you can see a procession of figures
bearing tribute from the vassal kings. Each scene bears a script
naming them. On the second register a figure brings the tribute from
King Jehu of Israel (841-814 BC) to the King of Assyria. As former
keeper of Western Asiatic Antiquities at the British Museum T.C.
Mitchell points out in his book, the museum is host to many pieces
that bear witness to Biblical history.

But why am I telling you all this?

Well, Palestinian propaganda and its cohorts of EU bowdlerizing troops
have also visited the Museum. Which is why all the information notes
pertaining to the artifacts that mention the history of the Kingdoms
of Judea and Israel now also mention the word ‘Palestine’— even three
thousand years BC — while the name was only given to the land in 135
AD by Roman Emperor Hadrian when he incorporated it into the Roman

The Judean Kingdoms are nowhere to be found!

This anachronistic view is even more comic in Mitchell’s book, The
Bible in the British Museum: Interpreting the Evidence. His
interpretation is very much a contemporary one as no map of the
ancient Near East ever mentions Judea in his book. On the other hand a
small map claiming to depict a 2000 BC territory across both banks of
the Jordan is called ‘Palestine’ (p.18).

This is the only anachronistic name — the other places all bear their
ancient names, even the Assyrian and Babylonian Empires, which ceased
to exist six hundred years BC or even Phoenicia, the distant ancestor
to Lebanon. It is true that three pages are devoted to the chronology
of the Kingdoms of Judea and Israel, running over a thousand years BC
to 66 AD. But these kingdoms are missing from all the maps! How
strange — kingdoms without lands! The name ‘Palestine’ has replaced
them while, strangely enough (but only innocent minds would find it
actually strange), the very same map carries the names Edom, Moab and
Ammon — and not Jordan, which was founded there by the British in 1922

The anachronistic name ‘Palestine’ is mentioned several times

The author offers a lot of very sophisticated historical and
archaeological accounts about many artifacts and texts that refer to
the history of the people of Israel and confirm the Biblical
narrative. Strangely enough though, all these descriptions feature the
anachronistic name of Palestine several times. This reminded me of
Steven Baum’s lecture at the Conference on anti-Semitism. Baum told us
that many of his articles had been rejected by various academic
publications on the grounds that ‘Palestine’ had to be mentioned
whenever ‘Israel’ was being mentioned — whatever the actual topic was.

Palestine, a European colony, the mirror of its anti-Semitic bias

As a matter of fact, since 1973, the EU has devoted its resources to
‘invent’ a Palestinian people that was meant to replace Israel. The
insidious war or Europe against the Hebrew State goes beyond its
political dimension, beyond the constant propaganda, libel,
misinformation and the poisonous attacks intended to paralyse Israel’s
defence system. Such a war is also based on the billions stolen from
European citizens and appropriated for the creation of a false state
that is bound to operate on a dysfunctional basis, that is to say
contemporary Palestine, a European colony and the mirror of its anti-
Semitic stance.

The ancient Kingdoms of Judea and Israel whose names have been erased
from maps

Suffering from division and teetering on the verge of bankruptcy hate-
filled Europe has still been able to find the means to sponsor an army
of pen-pushers who fastidiously label products from the ancient
kingdoms of Judea and Israel whose names are no longer mentioned in
the maps of its museums. Such a tag points to Israeli products as
coming from the Euro-Palestinian colony and, as such, excludes them
from European markets — where one can find in abundance exports from
countries where dictatorship, ethnic and religious cleansing, corporal
and genital mutilations as well as terrorism reign supreme— all in the
name of Human Rights.

Palestinizing Biblical archaeology

Through the network of the Anna Lindh Foundation various forgers are
busy palestinizing Biblical archaeology, surreptitiously stealing one
people’s history to attribute it to another. Crossing out one word,
censoring another, they dismiss artistic projects, discard literary
works or the research of historians. They exclude Israelis from
universities, blaming them as living proofs of the falsity of the
Palestinian narrative they are forging. European leaders get together,
think and plot the exclusion from scientific programmes of their
colleagues — whether Jews or Christians — who stand for the
extraordinary historical epic of Israel.

This large net of hatred devised by the European Commission embraces
all Europe. The ethics of science and knowledge, the stable and
rational reference points whose legacy harks back to Greek
civilisation, seem to have disappeared. Koranic knowledge has now
precedence through the ‘Palestine’ narrative that calls jihad fighters
‘freedom fighters’.

A few days after my visit to the British Museum the EU was indulging
itself with a Nobel Prize for Peace to the applauding cheers of the
finest members of the elite of political cynicism. Obviously such an
outrageous ceremony could only take place in Oslo…

Bat Ye'or is the author of Eurabia, Islam and Dhimmitude, The Decline
of Eastern Christianity Under Islam, The Dhimmi, and Europe,
Globalization, and the Coming of the Universal Caliphate.


2013-04-13 17:20:29 UTC
Post by j***@satx.rr.com
Bat Ye'or: A Day at the Museum
A Day at the Museum
by Bat Ye'or
Translated from the French by Jean Szlamowicz
it reminded me of a documentary program by NG about the kingdom of Judea,
after an Archeological search, the only evidence they came up with to Judea
biblical time, was un tested piece of rock written something like "House of
David " on it , what they did found and lot of it was idols carved object to
the ancient gods such as Baal, they came to the conclusion that not all Jews
worshiped the One God.

is easy to forget, but who sheltered Beni Israel the descendants of Isaac
and Jacob in the dark ages? until the creation of the state of Israel?
have you forgot the battle of Buda?
the Spanish Inquisition? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Inquisition
History of the Jews in Spain


all the sudden Islam and Muslims and Arab and Arab Christians are evil?
aren't what you advocating for is anti Semitism or the term only apply for
blue eyed blond hair Convert Khazars Jews?
enough is enough, we are living on a rock floating in space, we should learn
to coexist instead to spread religious hatred and ethnic discrimination.

snip [nonesense]

2013-04-13 17:31:06 UTC
The Legacy of Islamic Antisemitism:
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2013-04-13 17:39:22 UTC
Proof of Ancient Jewish Existence in Israel

The vast array of evidence is overwhelming & incontrovertible. Any
serious research will only support these facts. Just look at the Dead
Sea Scrolls to start.

By Richard Elliott Friedman

On Sept. 24, 2012 the president of Iran informed reporters that Israel
has “no roots there in history” in the Middle East. Now a lot of good
jokes come to mind at the expense of this clueless man, but, seriously
folks, he has at least conveyed an important truth: he recognizes that
Israel’s historical presence in that world since antiquity matters –
matters enough to deny it.
Now, the Bible pictures an Israelite-Jewish population and government
there starting in the 12th century B.C.E. and continuing until the end
of the Bible’s history about 800 years later. But how do we know if
this is true? As scholars, we can’t just say, “The Bible tells us so.”
We need to see evidence that could be presented to any honest person,
whether that person be religious or not, Jewish or Christian or from
some other religion or no religion, or from Mars.

There are thousands of Hebrew inscriptions discovered all over the

In the first place, the land is filled with Hebrew inscriptions, so I
begin with that. These are not just an occasional inscription on a
piece of pottery or carved in a wall. Nor should we even start with
one or two of the most famous archaeological finds. Rather, there are
thousands of inscriptions. They come from hundreds of excavated towns
and cities. They are in the Hebrew language. They include people’s
names that bear forms of the name of their God: YHWH. This means names

Hoshaiah, which means “YHWH Saved”
Ahijah, which means “YHWH is My Brother”
Shemariah, which means”YHWH Watched”

The inscriptions also refer to their kings. They include stamps and
seals from official documents. They come from tombs where that land’s
people were buried. They name people who are mentioned in the Hebrew
Bible. They include wording that also appears in the Hebrew Bible.
They reflect a widespread community whose dominant language was
Hebrew, who didn’t eat pork and who worshiped a God named YHWH.

Related Article: Biblical Archeology: Bringing the Bible to Life

The Blessing of the Silver Scrolls can be seen at:

I happened to be present at the time of the discovery of another
important inscription in Jerusalem. Right below the Church of Scotland
in Jerusalem, in a Jewish tomb from the seventh century B.C.E., was a
silver cylinder with the words inscribed in it:

May YHWH bless you and keep you. May YHWH make his face shine to
you and give you peace.

It is the words of the Priestly Blessing in the Hebrew Bible (Numbers
6:24-26). That’s just one inscription. The distinguished scholar
Jeffrey Tigay of the University of Pennsylvania sums up: “The names of
more than 1,200 pre-exilic Israelites are known from Hebrew
inscriptions and foreign inscriptions referring to Israel.” Of these,
557 have names with YHWH as their divine element, 77 have names with

Everybody knew that Israel was there:the Egyptians, the Assyrians,
the Babylonians, the Arameans, the Moabites, the Persians.

As for those foreign inscriptions, texts from the neighboring lands
refer to the people, to their kings, to their government, to their
armies and to their cities. The basic fact: everybody knew that Israel
was there: the Egyptians, the Assyrians, the Babylonians, the
Arameans, the Moabites, the Persians. Pharaoh Merneptah (1213-1203
B.C.E.) refers to the people of Israel in a stone stele. Pharaoh
Shoshenk I (c. 945-924 B.C.E.) describes his campaign in which he
refers to cities in Israel (including Ayalon, Beth-Shan, Megiddo,
Rehob and Taanach). Assyrian King King Shalmaneser III names King
“Ahab the Israelite” among his opponents in his Kurkh monument and
names and pictures King Jehu on his Black Obelisk. Seven other
Assyrian emperors also refer to Israel and Judah and name kings who
are also mentioned in the Bible. The Babylonian sources, too, refer to
the Jews and their monarchy in the years after the Babylonians
replaced the Assyrian empire.

And the record continues when the Persians replace the Babylonians, as
documented in the Cylinder of Cyrus, the Persian emperor. Cyrus’
decree in 538 B.C.E., let the exiled Jews return to their land; it was
followed by an influx of Jewish population. There was population
growth from the reign of Darius I to Artaxerxes I. The country that
the Babylonians had conquered was reestablished as a state of Judah
(yehud medintha) within the Persian umbrella. You want irony? Persia,
now called Iran, the country that re-established the Jews’ country in
biblical times, now has a president who says that Israel has no roots

Priests and scribes in the top level await the peasants and farmers
who bring their produce in gratitude. British Museum, Sumerian inlaid
panel dated 2000 BC.
Read more at: http://www.cais-soas.com/CAIS/Religions/non-iranian/Judaism/Persian_Judaism/Persia_created_judaism.htm

Also from that period come the Elephantine papyri, a collection of
documents that include letters from the Jewish community in Egypt in
the fifth century B.C.E. to the Jewish community back in Jerusalem.

The Mesha Stele, now in the Louvre in Paris. The mention of “Israel”
is its earliest known written occurence. Dhiban, ancient Dibon, where
the stele was found, was the capital of this kingdom of Moab, located
on the left bank of the Dead Sea.
Read more: http://www.louvre.fr/en/oeuvre-notices/mesha-stele

Closer to home, right across the Jordan River from Israel was Moab, in
what is now Jordan. In the ninth century B.C.E., its King Mesha
erected a stele referring to Israel and its King Omri. He also refers
to the royal House of David. An inscription erected by an Aramean
(what is today Syria) also refers to a king of the House of David. In
all, these ancient texts refer to 15 kings of Israel and Judah who are
known from the Bible, and all are referred to in the right periods.

Material culture (in other words: stuff) fills out this picture.
Thousands of people have now walked through the Siloam Tunnel under
Jerusalem. It is a major feat of engineering. It is a passage nearly
six football fields long underground. A tremendous project like this
and others that we shall see reflect a major organized society with a
government that could bring such an undertaking off. If it were done
today, the governor would be there for photo opportunities, and the
architect and builder would be honored. When it was done 2,700 years
ago, it took a substantial number of workers and tremendous cost.

Likewise, when my students joined in the City of David Project
archaeological excavations of Jerusalem under the archaeologist Yigal
Shiloh, they uncovered the now visible “stepped stone structure.”
Whatever purpose it served – defense, soil or water retention, a
platform for some other major structure – it was a huge project. It
wasn’t something that a couple of friends assembled. It required
community organization, planning, design, a large number of
construction workers and funding.

The archaeologist John S. Holladay, Jr. thus speaks of the
“archaeologically discernible characteristics of a state” from the
10th century B.C.E. on. These include a pattern of urban settlements
in a hierarchy of size: cities, then towns, then villages, then
hamlets. They have primary seats of government (i.e., capital cities):
Jerusalem and Samaria. Then they have major cities as regional
centers: Hazor, Megiddo, Gezer and Lachish. They have centralized
bureaucracy. They have frontier defenses. They have standing armies.
They have economics based on tribute, taxes and tolls. They have a
writing system. Holladay lists all of these and more in showing how we
know that there was a populous society with a central government from
this early stage of the biblical period.

Holladay published this in 1995. We can now add more: central planning
of the architecture and layout of towns, a distinctive alphabet,
standard weights and measures. And we can add that the Israelite sites
lack pork bones. The archaeologist Elizabeth Bloch-Smith seconds the
point, that the material culture is clearly Israelite starting from
the Iron II period (950-600 B.C.E.) at the latest.

Learn more of Ancient Hebrew Alphabets at:

We can also see the changes in the Hebrew scripts on the inscriptions
developing through time, and we can actually date texts based on this.
(An eighth century letter aleph doesn’t look the same as a seventh or
sixth century aleph.) The study of these scripts and the inscriptions
is called epigraphy. Many biblical scholars go through training in
this field. The point is that this doesn’t happen overnight. It takes
centuries for these scripts to go through all these changes. So (1) we
can date texts, and (2) we know that the Hebrew of these inscriptions
was the language of the people of Israel and Judah, not just for a
year or a decade or a century, but for many centuries.

In parallel, we can trace the development of the Hebrew language as
found in the Bible and the other ancient texts. We didn’t move from
Shakespearean English to Valley Girl English overnight. That takes
centuries. Likewise, the Hebrew of the Song of Miriam and the Song of
Deborah, which are the two oldest texts in the Bible, is different
from the Hebrew of the late book of Nehemiah. Hebrew existed as a
language that went through all the natural stages of development that
we find in any language that people continuously speak and write over
very long periods of time.

The evidence was assembled by hundreds of archaeologists, with
tens of thousands of workers, coming from many religions and many

The point of this is how vast the array of the evidence is. This is
not a vague hypothesis. It is not formulated by overestimating or over-
interpreting a single little find. It is not like an Indiana Jones
movie (though we love them), in which the archaeologist goes looking
for a single object. This is a civilization: between 400 and 500
cities excavated, hundreds of years, thousands of items in writing,
millions of people. This evidence was not discovered by an individual
or even by a small group. It was assembled by hundreds of
archaeologists, with tens of thousands of workers, coming from many
religions and many countries.

To read & learn the Dead Sea Scrolls go to: http://dss.collections.imj.org.il/
To read & learn the Dead Sea Scrolls go to: http://dss.collections.imj.org.il/

Some archaeologists hoped to confirm the Bible. Some seemed to take
pleasure in throwing the Bible into doubt. There have been frauds, and
there have been mistakes, aplenty, as in any other field. But the mass
of the evidence remains available to all. We can see and continually
refine a picture of ancient Israel.

We can (and do) have a million arguments about almost every aspect of
the Bible. But what we cannot deny is the existence of the world that
produced it. That fact is not true just because the Bible says so. It
is true because practically everything says so.

We don’t all agree on matters relating to the present politics of
Israel and its neighbors. That’s okay. It’s even healthy. But let no
one repeat this nonsense about Israel not having its historical roots
there. One cannot understand the Jews or Israel if one displaces the
first 1,000 years of their history.

This article originally appeared on the Huffington Post.


Jeffrey Tigay, “You Shall Have No Other Gods, Harvard Semitic
Studies” (Atlanta: Scholars Press, 1986)
John S. Holladay, Jr., “The Kingdoms of Israel and Judah:
Political and Economic Centralization in the Iron IIA-B (ca. 1000-750
BCE),” in Thomas Levy, ed., “The Archaeology of Society in the Holy
Land” (Facts on File, 1995) pp. 368-398.
Elizabeth Bloch-Smith, “Israelite Ethnicity in Iron I: Archaeology
Preserves What Is Remembered and What Is Forgotten in Israel’s
History,” Journal of Biblical Literature 122 (2003)
James B. Pritchard, ed., “Ancient Near Eastern Texts” (Princeton
University Press, 1969).

View original aish.com publication (without the photographs)at:

Additional sources have been attributed onto the pictures – Phillip

2013-04-14 07:17:44 UTC
wrote in message news:7dd187ae-fb5a-478b-92ff-***@c10g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...

you can not accuse true Semitics of being anti Semitics
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_people , books are written by man not a
evidence or a fact,
in short anyone can sit and write a book and state unfunded facts.
many religious text books tend to advocate violence against other religious
or none religious people if is taken out of context, for example what Jewish
religious text books say about none Jews? *Beasts* , the books you are
quoting are in true nature anti Semitics, seems to advocate hatred and
violence against certain ethnic and religious group, Nazi Germany did the
same to the Jews during WWII, and the results?.
Iran does not represent Islam, do not generalize get your fact right
let me take you back in time and compare the treatment of Arabs Muslims to
the Jews http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_under_Muslim_rule
and the treatment of today so called Jews/Israelites to the Native
Palestinians Arabs/others
that should put a shame on the whole world, this is the 21st Century there's
no excuses for the World Community failure.

you need to look beyond your religious fanatic hatred to see the big
picture, but unfortunately you're already blinded.

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2013-04-14 20:30:11 UTC
The Farhud:
Roots of the Arab-Nazi Alliance in the Holocaust [Paperback]
Edwin Black (Author)

By Gary Selikow
A penetrating, pivotal and insightful look into the Islamic-Nazi
alliance of World War II, the bloody pogrom of Jews by Arab mobs in
Baghdad in June, 1941, the background to these events and the
relevance of oil , ideology and Islam to these events.
Islam had a long history of hatred and subjugation of the Jews, known
as dhimnitude. The Jews in Islamic countries were reduced ton the
status of humiliated and subjugated second class citizens, with a
variety of laws to ensure this.
Dhimnis were barred from building any structure higher than a Muslims,
could not ride horses but only donkeys without saddles, could not
build any new houses of worship or repair existing ones and were
forbidden from making any noises that would attract attention to their
worship or burial of their dead.
They had to wear distinctive clothes to identify them, Jews had to
wear yellow, and the mandatory yellow patch which was forced upon the
Jews by the Nazis had it's origins in Baghdad, and not in Medieval
Europe as commonly believed.
The idea of Jews in the Middle East being sovereign in an independent
state, and not subjugated to Muslim rule and humiliated under Dhimni
status is what was intolerable to the Arabs and the roots of the
violent Arab rejection of the state of Israel, and before that of
migration of Jews into the Land of Israel. This was anathema to the
demand for Arab supremacy and dhimnitude
"Certainly the Palestinian population was accustomed to the many
migrants from the far reaches of the Ottoman Empire and especially the
extended Middle East who settled in the land. But the local Arab
community harbored a special resentment, at one level or another, for
all these new Jewish neighbours. They were after all Jews and as such
second class citizens beneath the Syrian Muslims, Lebanese Muslims,
Egyptian Muslims, and Turks who freely came and went from Palestine".
From 1920 attacks against Jews spread like wildfire in the Land of
Israel, instigated by Haj Amin al husseini, the bloodthirsty Jew-hater
and'Mufti of Jerusalem'.

The bloody 1929 pogroms and massacres of Jews that spread throughout
the Land of Israel in 1929 were sparked in September, 1928, by Jews at
the Western wall contravening the dhimni laws by erecting benches to
sit on at the wall, and partitions to separate men from women. Jews
were first massacred in Jerusalem and then the horrific massacres by
Arabs of Jews took place of the ancient Jewish community of Hebron.

"House to house they went bursting into every room looking for hiding
Jews. Religious scrolls or books were burned or torn to shreds. The
defenceless Jews were variously beheaded, castrated, their breasts and
fingers sliced off, and in some cases their eyes plucked from their
sockets. Infants and adults, men and women , it mattered not. The
carnage went on for hours, with the Arab policemen standing down.
Blood ran in streamlets down the narrow stone staircases outisde the
buildings.hose by house, room by room the savagery was repeated".

This was followed by the Arab pogroms against Jews of 1936, the Arab-
Nazi Alliance and the spread of the Holocaust to Iraq where Jews were
massacred horrifically in Baghdad by pro-Nazi Arab mobs. an event
which the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum has refused to
acknowledge, either for reasons of refusing to recongnize the equality
of Sephardi Jews to Ashkenazim, or a politically correct determination
not to blacken the names of the Arabs or create an association of the
Arab radicals with the Nazis.
The book go's onto to highlight the traditional Islamic Jew-hatred
found a willing ally in Nazi Germany, with the instrumental role
played by Husseini, who met with Hitler, worked closely with Eichmann,
and wrote letters top Axis governments preventing the transportations
of thousands of Jewish children from bulgaria and Hungary to safety in
the Holy Land, instead diverting them to the death camps at Auschwitz
where they were murdered.
Iraq gained independence in 1932. Nazi infiltration followed within a
year. The Christian owned daily al Aram-al-Arabi (The Arab World)
published daily extracts from the Arabic edition of Meim Kampf. with
it's venomous anti-Jewish propagnda.
In 1935, as German influence strengthened , a pro-Nazi society, al
Muthana was set up in Basra and Mosul lead by a well-known Jew-hater
Dr Saib Shawkat, director of the Royal hospital in Baghdad, whose
brother Sami Shawkat, a fellow medical doctor, founded the Futuwa
youth brigades , which distributed anti-Jewish and anti-British
Hilter's ambassador to Baghdad Fritz Grobba played the lead role in
Iraq in disseminating anti-Jewish and anti-Zionist propagnda, his
provocations were covered in newspapers of the day from Palestine to
Great Britain. He claimed that 85% of commerce in Iraq was in Jewish
hands and that Jews were not true Iraqis but a foul species apart.
Dozens of Iraqi Jews were killed in attacks by pro-Nazi Iraqis. In a
report to Berlin on June 6, 1939, Grobba wired a report to Berline
labelled SECRET in which he railed that 'The Jews are the source of
propaganda against the Italians and Germans in Iraq" Grobba threatened
a bloody massacre of Jews in Iraq "If the Jews continue to make it
difficult for Iraq with their deeds, a day will come when the anger of
the masses erupt, and the result will be: a massacre of Jews. When an
oriental people's feelings erupt, all restraint disappears: The want
to see blood"

The central event referred to in the book is the Farhud, the senseless
orgy of violence on June 1-2, on the Jewish holiday of Shavuot, in
which the Arab-Nazis murdered, raped and pillaged the Jewish community
that had lived there for 2,600 years. The riots occurred in a power
vacuum following the collapse of the pro-Nazi government of Rashid Ali
while the city was in a state of instability. Before British and
Transjordanian forces intervened, over 600 Jews had been killed and
thousands injured. Looting of Jewish property took place and thousands
of Jewish homes were destroyed.
As the author recounts eyewitness testimonies : "Infants were vicously
bashed to death against the pavement and were thrown lifeless into the
Tigris. Jewish women-
hundreds of them-were mercilessly and openly raped in front of their
husbands, in front of their parents, in front of their children, in
front of wild Muslim mobs. If the women was pregnant, sometimes she
was first raped, and then sliced open to destroy the unborn baby; only
then was she killed. Men who defended their women and children were
killed and their homes plundered. Commonly after murdering the
defenseless Jewish men and women with hatchets, axes, and swords, the
chanting throngs hacked the inanimate bodies to pieces thus further
defiling the infidels and -temporarily-sating the mob's blood lust".

The original plans for the 1941 anti-Jewish terror on June 1, were
intended to mimic Nazi extermination camps in Europe. Lists of Jews
were compiled using the familiar approach the Nazis and their allies
had employed in Europe.
It is important to realize that the Farhud was a mass movement, not
the actions of a gang or a few errant officers.
By 1951, 110,000 Jews - 80% of Iraqi Jewry - had emigrated from the
country, most to Israel. The Farhud has been called the "forgotten
pogrom of the Holocaust" and "the beginning of the end of the Jewish
community of Iraq", a community that had existed for 2,600 years.

One denominator characterized the Nazi-Arab confluence , the joint
Arab and Nazi-Arab conviction that the Jews constituted a menace by
their very existence, and had to be exterminated.
The book covers the SS and Wehrmacht units of Bosnian Muslims that
worked with the bloodthirsty and sadistic Croatian Ustasha in killing
millions of Serbs, Jews and Gypsies in Yugoslavia.
And then the spreading of the Holocaust to North Africa, where Arabs
sponsored by the Nazis brutally annihilated thousands of north African
Jews. The Arab-Nazi collaboration puts the lie to the Islamic claim
that the Arabs had nothing to do with the Holocaust and therefore
should not suffer the indignity of tolerating a Jewish entity in their
The author also in the last chapter describes the continuation of the
Arab support for Nazi ideology after the Holocaust, and the refuge
given to Egypt by Nazi war criminals, including Aribert Heim, Alfred
Zingler and Johan Von Leers, who helped to build the Nazi propaganda,
intelligence and military machine against Israel.

This is required reading to understand the roots of Arab hatred for
Israel and Jews, in an age where the Jews of the Middle East are
threatened with another Holocaust today, and the ideologies of the
mufti, the Farhud and the Arab-Nazi alliance are the ideologies that
drive Hamas, Hezbollah, the Islamic Brotherhood, Al Qaeda and the
Khamenei-Ahmadinejad regime in Iran.

2013-04-15 06:29:53 UTC
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as i have stated before, you're too blind to see the big picture, let me
help you, when you write or quote you need to support it with reference to a
reputable unbiased source.
for example "Relations between Nazi Germany and the Arab world"


is that mean all the world hated the Jews?
all the world is NAZI?
how many Arabs Died fighting along side the allies?

the Arabs were 3rd class Citizens in their own land for at least 700 years,
add years of colonialism which produced poverty and backwardness, add
Balfour Declaration http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_Declaration, with
influx of European Jews to Palestine, who they started kibbutz style
community farms and Military style training camps, the influx of weapon, and
lack of information (not many people had access to media then *there was no
internet :-)* ) drove this people to desperation.
things will have been a lot better if the representative of the 2
communities sat and talks from the beginning, but the Jews took it on the
Arabs in Generals, and the Palestinians in particulars.
while the Majorities of Palestinians and Arabs placed their fate in England
(and the results?), some took the freedom offer from Nazi Germany.
the Zionists Agenda was in motion way before, and the Jewish Holocaust was
the final unplanned piece of the puzzle that served their interest, rumours
where Arabs and Muslims where next after the Jews in the gas chambers.


as you see you're not alone.
Arab do not hate Jews otherwise would not have been any Jews left in the
Arab World, how many Jews live in the Arab world today?
Arab Hated the Zionists European Jews, a convert Jews driving by religion
just like Al-Qaida, who started the whole conflict.


[snip the usual]

2013-04-15 20:10:58 UTC
Dare To Inquire: "The Bloody Borders of Islam"
by Bruce Kodish

Political scientist Samuel Huntington has made some interesting
comments on the current state of international politics in which he
trys to explain the disproportionate world-wide involvement of Muslims
in violence and terrorism, what he calls the "bloody borders of

Huntington has noted that:
"While groups from all religions have engaged in various forms of
violence and terrorism, the figures make it clear that in the past
decade Muslims have been involved in far more of these activities than
people of other religions. One of the things that attracted a lot of
attention in The Clash of Civilizations was my use of the phrase "the
bloody borders of Islam." But if you look around the Muslim world you
see that in the 1990s Muslims were fighting non-Muslims in Bosnia,
Kosovo, Macedonia, Chechnya, Azerbaijan, Tajikistan, Kashmir,
Indonesia, the Philippines, the Middle East, Sudan, Nigeria, and other
places. Muslims have been fighting one another also. The International
Institute for Strategic Studies surveyed the armed conflicts going on
in the world in 2000, and its figures show that twenty-three of the
thirty-two conflicts under way involved Muslims.
Why is this?"

For Huntington's complete comments, read Religion, Culture, and
International Conflict After September 11

2013-04-16 03:35:49 UTC
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you start to sound like a broken record already, have a good day .