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UN GENERAL ASSEMBLEY WILL DECLARE PALESTINE A STATE AGAINST THE VETO
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Aviroce
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UN GENERAL ASSEMBLEY WILL DECLARE PALESTINE A STATE AGAINST THE VETO
POWER OF USA
By Aviroce (June 18, 2011)

Poetry has been rooted in the Arabic culture. Poetry is succinct in
summarizing ideas symbolically. Moreover poetry has a way of being
easily remembered as music and rhymes seem to be natural human
addiction. Here is a small poem for the ages in part uses the song
“Remember the month of September”:


Time to remember the month of September when Palestine becomes a
state
Time to remember the month of September when Apartheid begins to
waste
Early in September binladination to remember a lesson on Evil and
Jews
Oh! September! A month to remember when America breaks loose.


Arabs wrote the Theory of Music and created a great Mathematical tool
called Logarithm by studying musical notes on string instruments.
The
West capitalized on this finding and built the first Slide Rule based
on Logarithm. For those who are engulfed with advanced computer
technology, the slide rule lost its importance in engineering
beginning 1974 when the first hand-held calculators began to flood
the
market. My first calculator was a Hewlet-Packard bought for $250!!


Establishing the State of Palestine is a step forward for
Palestinians, Arabs and Muslims to continue their human ingenuity and
creativity to develop the human race. Mind you greed may impede
human
development but greed has a way of being defeated and subdued.


Aviroce
HHW
12 years ago
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America's veto power is in the Security Council, not the General
Assembly. Isn't this a GA matter? The news will be interesting
tomorrow, primarily to see how the US behaves. Our policy is the two
state solution. Will we have the guts to act upon it incrementally?
Aviroce
12 years ago
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"Incrementalyy" Yes. Obama as I understand him wants to declare
"Rape" to resist the Israeli/Jewish Lobby. After the rape, he will
move forward. That is my second prediction.
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Aviroce
12 years ago
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Two State Solution where Palestine will be a shrine for Palestinians
and all Palestinians will have the right of citizenship in Israel, non-
Apartheid, and Palestine, democratic. If some Jews wish to become
Palestinians with no previous privileges, then they should renounce
Israel citizenship and accept their plight like any Palestinian in
Palestine.
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Truth and honesty
12 years ago
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Post by Aviroce
UN GENERAL ASSEMBLEY WILL DECLARE PALESTINE A STATE AGAINST THE VETO
POWER OF USA
In the general assembly the US does not have a veto, and it any case the
security council voted against it in 2011.
Aviroce
12 years ago
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You are right about the veto power. What my rhyme says is the fact
that USA cannot reverse the process in the General Assembly. But wait
and see. USA will change course once the status is elevated.
Post by Truth and honesty
Post by Aviroce
UN GENERAL ASSEMBLEY WILL DECLARE PALESTINE A STATE AGAINST THE VETO
POWER OF USA
In the general assembly the US does not have a veto, and it any case the
security council voted against it in 2011.
Truth and honesty
12 years ago
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Post by Aviroce
You are right about the veto power.
I am not that often wrong
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The reality of Palestinian rule.
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Aviroce
12 years ago
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UN Resolution 242 was enacted in 1967 and signed by the Security
Council of the United Nations including all Veto Power Countries, USA
is one of them. As far as USA is concerned, USA will honor such
signature as it has become the law of the land just like the Geneva
Convention which the Supreme Court of the United States upheld as a
law of the land when Bitch II attempted to circumvent the law.
Under Immenent Domain, no part of Palestine could be annexed to any
state without the consent of the Palestinian People about Ten Million.
worldwide. This means that the deception of "We bought from another
Palestinian" does not hold water as it has too many holes in it.
Ownership of land is custodia, the supreme owner is the Palestinian
People and their land cannot be sold to form another state in conflict
with. Any Jew settlement is just a settlement by coercion and brute
force, land taken from prisoners in their own land. This will be
reversed.
Post by Truth and honesty
Post by Aviroce
You are right about the veto power.
I am not that often wrong
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The reality of Palestinian rule.http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3e/1st_intifada_lynch...
Surfer
12 years ago
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On Wed, 5 Dec 2012 08:54:47 -0800 (PST), Aviroce
Post by Aviroce
UN Resolution 242 was enacted in 1967 and signed by the Security
Council of the United Nations including all Veto Power Countries, USA
is one of them.
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Post by Aviroce
Under Immenent Domain, no part of Palestine could be annexed to any
state without the consent of the Palestinian People...
That idea is challenged here:
http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/12/the_lie_that_broke_israels_back.html

<Start extract>

... legally, there never was Palestinian territory for Israel to
occupy. Israel took the territories from Egypt and Jordan in 1967,
and there's no getting away from that. So today Israel has more right
than Jordan to be occupying the West Bank, and more right than Egypt
to be occupying Gaza (if Israel's blockade may be called occupation).
"Palestine" never enters the equation. Turn Middle East wars and laws
upside-down and any way you like, but if the territories belong to any
U.N. member, or quasi-member, they belong to Israel.

Not even the famous U.N. Resolution 242 can help. It told Israel to
withdraw from territories once held by Jordan, illegally, and Egypt,
and it envisaged those territories' return to those two countries.
"Palestine" never got a mention in Resolution 242 -- for a couple of
good reasons.

Palestinians were not among the belligerents involved in the Six-Day
War. Anyway, the people who were going to stake claim to a nation
they would call Palestine were a year away from being born.

More than anyone, King Hussein of Jordan understood perfectly that a
cart before the horse never gets off the blocks. So he told the 1988
Arab League summit in Amman: "The appearance of a distinct Palestinian
national personality comes as an answer to Israel's claim that
Palestine is Jewish."

The Hashemite monarch was explaining to fellow potentates why a
Palestinian nation had to be conceived in 1968. If it were not, then
the West Bank and Gaza would be Israel's by dint of war and law. Arab
armies had been vanquished in six days, the territories lost to
Israel. That made it imperative for the PLO to revise its covenant,
which it did on July 17, 1968. The PLO meddled with Article 24,
erasing the old declaration that the West Bank and Gaza were not
occupied and now insisting that they were.....

<End extract>

And the following suggests that the above claims are correct:

Palestine National Charter of 1964
http://www.un.int/wcm/content/site/palestine/pid/12363

Article 24: This Organization does not exercise any territorial
sovereignty over the West Bank in the Hashemite Kingdom of
Jordan, on the Gaza Strip or in the Himmah Area. Its activities
will be on the national popular level in the liberational, organizational,
political and financial fields.

So Palestinian claims that Israel is occupying _Palestinian_
territory in the West Bank, Gaza and the Himmah area appear to be
untrue.
Aviroce
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The Palestinians on the West Bank, East Jerusalem and Gaza are not the
only Palestinians. The Palestinians are all over the world with a
large number in Jordan, a country under Jew control by the Hashimite
Jew society, There are about Ten Million Palestinians all over the
world waiting to go back home. Therefore, it is deceptive to say that
what a small group of prisoners in their own home country fearing
death and torture can speak for all Palestinians. Right now the only
group that reflects the general consensus of the Palestinian people is
the organization in Gaza.

Keep in mind whatever information is written as you contend is
material under duress and under occupation and under all kinds of
oppressions. And notice that such statements are null and void
therefore. USA law says Israel must withdraw from Palestinian
territories per UN Resolution 242 and that must happen. Palestine
exists by Axiom.
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Surfer
12 years ago
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On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 08:25:17 -0800 (PST), Aviroce
Post by Aviroce
The Palestinians on the West Bank, East Jerusalem and Gaza are not the
only Palestinians. The Palestinians are all over the world....
Yes. But actually Palestine is the name that the Romans gave to the
Land of Israel, after they destroyed the state of Israel.

Therefore, all the Jews in the world are as Palestinian as the Arabs
who call themselves Palestinian.

However there is a significant difference between the two groups as
follows.

The Arab/Jewish conflict has produced both Arab and Jewish refugees.

However, while there are many Arab states to which Arab refugees from
the conflict can go, there is currently only one Jewish state to
which Jewish refugees can go.

That state is Israel. Therefore on the basis of human need, it is more
important for the state of Israel to continue to exist, than for a
Palestinian state to be brought into existence, if such a state
threatens the existence of Israel.
Aviroce
12 years ago
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Original Jews were Arabs and that is why you see them siding and
antagonizing the Prophet Mohammed. The Jews in Israel, better, the
ruling Jews in Israel are Western converts, basically atrocious
savages, war criminals. They are dressed in Arab uniforms while they
are German, Austrians, Russian, American, English, French war
criminals. The colonized Palestine and have attempted to create the
image of Arab Jews among Arabs while they are Western fakes. Frankly
these atrocious savages are entitled to anything but death and burning
in Hell. But to be practical and human, Palestinians are for Two
State Solution.
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Aviroce
12 years ago
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Romans did this and that means nothing. Palestine and the
Palestinians are here by Axiom, Self-evident Truth.
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Aviroce
12 years ago
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Additional Comment:

You remind me of Communism. Before the "Great Things" that Communism
could provide, people have to go through oppression, dictatorships,
corruption, and exploitation by a minority of people. Communism,
then, fails. The so-called monarch of Jordan has been a Jew.
Hashimite is from Hashem which is the god of the Jews. So the monarch
of Jordan is the enemy of Palestinians, Arabs and Muslim by dogma.
His advocacy is another aspriation for "Communism." Such aspiration
is merely propaganda to keep the evil monarch is position guarded by
USA and Israel agaonst the people of Palestine who were diverted to
Jordan just to dilute their objections to Israel. Once such an
objection is completely attained Israel would annex Jordan.

The Sixth Day War of 1967 was a manufactured war by Jews to surrender
West Bank, East Jerusalem and Gaza to Israel. The Jew monarch could
not deliver the territories in peace and calm otherwise he would be
called a traitor. Violence was the only way to deliver. After
delivery, peace with Jordan is achieved. How about that? As for the
decimation of Arabs, probably it could happen. Israel has secretly
developed the atomic bomb through the cooperation with France in
Dimona and even France itself. Arabs were told of the secret weapons
and were scared like hell. Now this is an old story and it cannot
happen. See what Gaza could do and see what Hezbollah could do.
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Aviroce
12 years ago
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Article 24 alludes to the West Bank and East Jerusalem as being kept
by Jordan no knowing that Jordan is a territory of Jews and also not
to deliver the same to Israel as the Hashimites did during 1967 and
immediately making peace with Israel. From Jew to Jew and back to
Jew.

With the freedom Palestinians achieved through the years, they
explicitly defined their goals and objectives and these goals and
objectives do not differ from what I expound. I am a member of no
organization and have hardly any friends among the Palestinians and
the Arab and Muslim communities. I act alone and I think alone.
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Aviroce
12 years ago
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UN GENERAL ASSEMBLEY WILL DECLARE PALESTINE A STATE AGAINST THE VETO
AND IT SURELY DID AND PALESTINE WAS BORN TODAY.
By Aviroce


Today is the Birth of Palestine. Palestine is irreversible. Israel
has been defined by the World Community as that state whose borders
are 1948 borders when the colonists seized that land from Palestine.

Israel must withdraw from the West Bank, East Jerusalem and Gaza. The
case goes to World Court.

Aviroce
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HHW
12 years ago
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Don't forget the Golan. There is presently renewed pressure in the UN
about that. It was dealt with by one of the six resolutions passed by
the GA today.
Aviroce
12 years ago
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UN Resolution 242 states very clearly that Israel cannot keep
territories acquired in 1967 War (I call it Fake War as it was
designed by Jews to have another Jew-controlled state called Jordan to
deliver East Jerusalem and West Bank to their kin." Jews sell the
Hashimite family as a Muslim Arab family. But look at the family
name, "Hashimite." HaShem is the god of Jews and worshippers of
HaShem are the Hashimites. It was great deception to ship
Palestinians into Jordan, give them citizenship in a countroy of Jews
or controlled and created for Jews to dispossess Palestinians.
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Aviroce
12 years ago
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Please pardon me. UN Resolution 242 prohibits Israel from keeping
land occupied in 1967.
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