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IRANIANS MUST NEVER LOWER THEIR GUARD
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Aviroce
2012-01-30 05:07:31 UTC
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IRANIANS MUST NEVER LOWER THEIR GUARD
By Aviroce

The drums of war are loud and clear. Jews have already convinced the
Empire to attack Iran. The Empire and the Jews are united to destroy
Iran so that Palestinians, Arabs and Muslims become slaves of
Imperialism and Zionism in the strictest sense. Iran stands in the
way according to Western interests. Iran must be ready to attack
when
it is attacked.


If you read about Imperialism in American history, you will find that
USA wanted to capture all the oil fields after WWII. For some reason
they felt that having the natives exploited indirectly would be more
beneficial the reason they had companies such Arabian American Oil
Company. Now almost all companies are USA related and subdued by USA
except Iran's Shat al-Arab oil. The Empire wants to capture these
oil
fields under the conspiracy that Iran should not have Nuclear
Weapons,
which would threaten the Empire's presence in the Persian Gulf and
the
Empire's possible campture of the Shat al-Arab oil fields. Iran must
defend itself.


An attack on Iran should mean an attack on all Empire's bases in the
region including the warships. Israel's attack on Iran will be
sheltered by USA attack to make Israel look as an innocent player.
But Iran should attack also Israel. This means attack by USA on Iran
should mean iranian attack against all the Gulf states, Iraq,
Afgahnistan, and Israel. It is a wide fight and of course spreading
assets on wider areas by a small underdeveloped country. But what
other avenues does Iran have short of immediate surrender?


The issue of blocking the Straights of Hormus by sinking ships is
short lived damage. But attacking American armada and American bases
can have more durable value. Could Iran win such a war? I do not
believe it could unless Russia, China, and India get involved. In
that case it would become WWIII. Still these countries could stay
on
the side line and watch Iran get destroyed and then buy their oil
from
one monopoly and that is the Empire's.


Aviroce
rst0
2012-01-30 18:01:13 UTC
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Post by Aviroce
IRANIANS MUST NEVER LOWER THEIR GUARD
By Aviroce
The drums of war are loud and clear.  Jews have already
convinced the Empire to attack Iran.  The Empire and the
Jews are united to destroy Iran so that Palestinians,
Arabs and Muslims become slaves of Imperialism and Zionism
in the strictest sense.  Iran stands in the way according
to Western interests.  Iran must be ready to attack when
it is attacked.
War against Iran is coming. The U.S. is testing a new bunker-busting
bomb that would penetrate 35 feet down before exploding. This is what
it would take to destroy the Iranian nuclear facilities.
Post by Aviroce
If you read about Imperialism in American history, you will find that
USA wanted to capture all the oil fields after WWII.  For some reason
they felt that having the natives exploited indirectly would be more
beneficial the reason they had companies such Arabian American Oil
Company.  Now almost all companies are USA related and subdued by USA
except Iran's Shat al-Arab oil.  The Empire wants to capture these
oil
fields under the conspiracy that Iran should not have Nuclear
Weapons,
which would threaten the Empire's presence in the Persian Gulf and
the
Empire's possible campture of the Shat al-Arab oil fields.  Iran must
defend itself.
An attack on Iran should mean an attack on all Empire's bases in the
region including the warships.  Israel's attack on Iran will be
sheltered by USA attack to make Israel look as an innocent player.
But Iran should attack also Israel.  This means attack by USA on Iran
should mean iranian attack against all the Gulf states, Iraq,
Afgahnistan, and Israel.   It is a wide fight and of course spreading
assets on wider areas by a small underdeveloped country.  But what
other avenues does Iran have short of immediate surrender?
The issue of blocking the Straights of Hormus by sinking ships is
short lived damage.  But attacking American armada and American bases
can have more durable value.  Could Iran win such a war?  I do not
believe it could unless Russia, China, and India get involved.   In
that case it would become WWIII.   Still these countries could stay
on
the side line and watch Iran get destroyed and then buy their oil
from
one monopoly and that is the Empire's.
Aviroce
Aviroce
2012-01-31 09:26:12 UTC
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I see similarities between WWII and possibly WWIII. We should wait to
see what will happen.
Post by Aviroce
IRANIANS MUST NEVER LOWER THEIR GUARD
By Aviroce
The drums of war are loud and clear.  Jews have already
convinced the Empire to attack Iran.  The Empire and the
Jews are united to destroy Iran so that Palestinians,
Arabs and Muslims become slaves of Imperialism and Zionism
in the strictest sense.  Iran stands in the way according
to Western interests.  Iran must be ready to attack when
it is attacked.
War against Iran is coming.  The U.S. is testing a new bunker-busting
bomb that would penetrate 35 feet down before exploding.  This is what
it would take to destroy the Iranian nuclear facilities.
Post by Aviroce
If you read about Imperialism in American history, you will find that
USA wanted to capture all the oil fields after WWII.  For some reason
they felt that having the natives exploited indirectly would be more
beneficial the reason they had companies such Arabian American Oil
Company.  Now almost all companies are USA related and subdued by USA
except Iran's Shat al-Arab oil.  The Empire wants to capture these
oil
fields under the conspiracy that Iran should not have Nuclear
Weapons,
which would threaten the Empire's presence in the Persian Gulf and
the
Empire's possible campture of the Shat al-Arab oil fields.  Iran must
defend itself.
An attack on Iran should mean an attack on all Empire's bases in the
region including the warships.  Israel's attack on Iran will be
sheltered by USA attack to make Israel look as an innocent player.
But Iran should attack also Israel.  This means attack by USA on Iran
should mean iranian attack against all the Gulf states, Iraq,
Afgahnistan, and Israel.   It is a wide fight and of course spreading
assets on wider areas by a small underdeveloped country.  But what
other avenues does Iran have short of immediate surrender?
The issue of blocking the Straights of Hormus by sinking ships is
short lived damage.  But attacking American armada and American bases
can have more durable value.  Could Iran win such a war?  I do not
believe it could unless Russia, China, and India get involved.   In
that case it would become WWIII.   Still these countries could stay
on
the side line and watch Iran get destroyed and then buy their oil
from
one monopoly and that is the Empire's.
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Aviroce
2012-01-31 09:22:48 UTC
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That what motivated my article.
Would Iran accept the attack lying on its back? If Iran attacks back,
then an all out war would take place. Would Russia and China accept
an oil monopoly by USA on Islamic oil, the only resource Muslims
have? China would have to buy the oil through USA. Right now, USA
and China are on a trade war path. Would this aggravate the
situation? What about USA debt to China?

I see similarity between WWII and possibly WWIII.
Post by Aviroce
IRANIANS MUST NEVER LOWER THEIR GUARD
By Aviroce
The drums of war are loud and clear.  Jews have already
convinced the Empire to attack Iran.  The Empire and the
Jews are united to destroy Iran so that Palestinians,
Arabs and Muslims become slaves of Imperialism and Zionism
in the strictest sense.  Iran stands in the way according
to Western interests.  Iran must be ready to attack when
it is attacked.
War against Iran is coming.  The U.S. is testing a new bunker-busting
bomb that would penetrate 35 feet down before exploding.  This is what
it would take to destroy the Iranian nuclear facilities.
Post by Aviroce
If you read about Imperialism in American history, you will find that
USA wanted to capture all the oil fields after WWII.  For some reason
they felt that having the natives exploited indirectly would be more
beneficial the reason they had companies such Arabian American Oil
Company.  Now almost all companies are USA related and subdued by USA
except Iran's Shat al-Arab oil.  The Empire wants to capture these
oil
fields under the conspiracy that Iran should not have Nuclear
Weapons,
which would threaten the Empire's presence in the Persian Gulf and
the
Empire's possible campture of the Shat al-Arab oil fields.  Iran must
defend itself.
An attack on Iran should mean an attack on all Empire's bases in the
region including the warships.  Israel's attack on Iran will be
sheltered by USA attack to make Israel look as an innocent player.
But Iran should attack also Israel.  This means attack by USA on Iran
should mean iranian attack against all the Gulf states, Iraq,
Afgahnistan, and Israel.   It is a wide fight and of course spreading
assets on wider areas by a small underdeveloped country.  But what
other avenues does Iran have short of immediate surrender?
The issue of blocking the Straights of Hormus by sinking ships is
short lived damage.  But attacking American armada and American bases
can have more durable value.  Could Iran win such a war?  I do not
believe it could unless Russia, China, and India get involved.   In
that case it would become WWIII.   Still these countries could stay
on
the side line and watch Iran get destroyed and then buy their oil
from
one monopoly and that is the Empire's.
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rst0
2012-01-31 20:27:28 UTC
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Post by Aviroce
That what motivated my article.
Would Iran accept the attack lying on its back?
Like Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan, what can Iran do to fight back?
There is no way Iran can attack America. Attacking Israel would bring
out the nuclear bomb from Israel. This is something we must wait and
see.
Post by Aviroce
If Iran attacks back,
then an all out war would take place.
It would be difficult for Iran to attack back. NATO would probably be
part of the alliance which Iran may attack.
Post by Aviroce
Would Russia and China accept
an oil monopoly by USA on Islamic oil,
This is a guessing game which we all are participating today. No one
knows. I don't think the Russian or/and Chinese know.
Post by Aviroce
the only resource Muslims
have?
They have other resources - human resources and human ingenuity.
Remember, they have fought back in Iraq and Afghanistan, with IEDs,
which was something we didn't expect.
Post by Aviroce
China would have to buy the oil through USA.  Right now, USA
and China are on a trade war path.  Would this aggravate the
situation?  What about USA debt to China?
Maybe this is what the U.S. is striving to do, i.e., to get China into
a war:

1: To eliminate the U.S. debt to China.
2: to prevent China's rise before it's too late,
i.e., before China become a super-power.
3: to lock on to the world's #1 power position for the future.
Post by Aviroce
I see similarity between WWII and possibly WWIII.
Yeah, Germany was nibbling away the power of other countries.
Today, the U.S. is nibbling away the power of other countries.
Aviroce
2012-02-02 08:23:50 UTC
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General Comment:
That is too iffy. But it is highly probable as when Israel attacked
Syria. This would be chipping at the enemy. More attacks would
follow as the Empire has concluded that surgical demolition is
temporary in nature since Nuclear knowledge has spread and is fruitful
in Iran. More Iranian students are studying Nuclear power, last
estimate was about 1300 applicants to their prestigious university.

The other side of the coin is very clear. An attack on the nuclear
plant underground would be implemented by an attack at Shat Al-Arab to
carve off the oil reserves. As I understand it there are many Jews
who publically stated they do not like Israel. To me these can be
subversive and will cooperate with the invasion. Shat Al-Arab is
similar to Kuwait that was carved off Iraq. The military scenario is
to occupy Iran with the "Big Bomb" on its Nuclear plant, and cut Shat
Al-Arab off Iran. This scenario mandates retaliation by Iran.

Retaliation by Iran can be done by attacking American bases in
Bahrain, Kuwait, Iraq and Afghanistan. Also it can include basically
attacks on all Persian Gulf "Arab" countries as all are colonies of
USA, may be not in the strictest sense, merely economic satellites. If
Iran follows the strategies taken by Hezbollah in Lebanon against
Israel, few good men, then it would not be as easy as pie to carve the
oil fields off Iran.

USA is not afraid of Nuclear war with Iran as Iran would lose such war
easily. The Nuclear fear is an excuse to carve the oil fields. Iran
must not let its guard down. Continuous bombardment of the armada and
bases is a must for Iran to injure the monster.
Post by Aviroce
China would have to buy the oil through USA. Right now, USA
and China are on a trade war path. Would this aggravate the
situation? What about USA debt to China?
Maybe this is what the U.S. is striving to do, i.e., to get China
into
a war:

1: To eliminate the U.S. debt to China.

YES, SIR. HERE MIGHT MAKES RIGHT. CONFISACTION OF MONETARY ASSETS DUE
TO AGRESSION. USA CAN REFUSE TO PAY BACK WHICH IS MERELY AN
EXPLOITTION OF CHINESE HUMAN RESOURCES GONE TO WASTE FOR THE CHINESE.
2: to prevent China's rise before it's too late,
IT IS TOO LATE TO STOP THE BOOMING ENGINE ON THE TRACKS. CHINA HAS
GONE WAY UP ECONOMICALLY AND MILITARILY . BUT CHINESE DO NO FLAUNT
THEIR POWER AS THEY WORK LIKE A RATTLE SNAKES IN THE HAY QUIETLY AND
SUBVERSIVELY AND MOSTLY WITHOUT EXPOSING THEIR IMMEDIATE INTERVENTION
WITH CHINESE DIRECT ASSETS AS WE SEE WITH NORTH KOREA. (THIS WAS
POINTED TO US BY SOME STUDY ON CHINA BY ONE POSTER.)
i.e., before China become a super-power. CHINA IS SUPER POWER.
AS I MENTIONED IT DOES NOT FLAUNT IT. IT LOOKS LIKE IT RETREATS YET
ADVANCES THROUGH OTHER COUNTRIES.
3: to lock on to the world's #1 power position for the future. FOR
NO. 2 AND NO.3, OPERATIONALLY, USA WITH EUROPEAN POWER CONSTITUTE THE
NUMBER ONE AGGRESSIVE COUNTRY. SUCH OPERATION IS REDUCING WESTERN
POWER SUPPLY AS SUCH SUPPLIES ARE BEING DISSIPATED THROUGH DIRECT
INTERFERENCE. THIS WOULD EVENTUALLY REDUCE WESTERN POWER. IT HAS
BEEN CONCLUDED THAT WESTERN INFLUENCE IS WEAKENING WHILE ASIA'S
INFLUENCE IS BECOMING STRONGER AND STRONGER WITH CONCENTRATIONS OF
POWER AND WEALTH IN CHINA AND INDIA. HAVING SAID THAT CHINA IS
CONSERVING AND STORING FOR THE "FINAL BLOW."

IT IS ALSO TRUE THAT USA IS ATTEMPTING TO REIGNITE MANUFACTURING AT
HOME THUS SUBVERTING CHINESE MANUFACTURING IN AN ATTEMPT AT TRADE
WAR. BUT CHINA HAS BECOME THE MANUFACTURING COUNTRY FOR THE WORLD
COMMUNITY WITH AND WITHOUT USA. TRANSFERING TECHNOLOGY FROM USA TO
FARM CHINESE LABOR WAS FAULTY FROM THE START. ONCE TECHNOLOGY IS
TRANSFERED, EDUCATION CONTINUES AND DEVELOPS. USA CANNOT CUT MORE
THAN MAY BE ABOUT TEN PERCENT OF CHINESE TRADE THROUGH "MADE IN
AMERICA." CHINA CAN MAKE THAT UP WITH CHEAP LABOR IN OTHER COUNTRIES.
TRANSFER IS IRREVERSIBLE.
Post by Aviroce
Post by Aviroce
That what motivated my article.
Would Iran accept the attack lying on its back?
Like Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan, what can Iran do to fight back?
There is no way Iran can attack America.  Attacking Israel would bring
out the nuclear bomb from Israel.  This is something we must wait and
see.
Post by Aviroce
If Iran attacks back,
then an all out war would take place.
It would be difficult for Iran to attack back.  NATO would probably be
part of the alliance which Iran may attack.
Post by Aviroce
Would Russia and China accept
an oil monopoly by USA on Islamic oil,
This is a guessing game which we all are participating today.  No one
knows.  I don't think the Russian or/and Chinese know.
Post by Aviroce
the only resource Muslims
have?
They have other resources - human resources and human ingenuity.
Remember, they have fought back in Iraq and Afghanistan, with IEDs,
which was something we didn't expect.
Post by Aviroce
China would have to buy the oil through USA.  Right now, USA
and China are on a trade war path.  Would this aggravate the
situation?  What about USA debt to China?
Maybe this is what the U.S. is striving to do, i.e., to get China into
  1:  To eliminate the U.S. debt to China.
  2:  to prevent China's rise before it's too late,
      i.e., before China become a super-power.
  3:  to lock on to the world's #1 power position for the future.
Post by Aviroce
I see similarity between WWII and possibly WWIII.
Yeah, Germany was nibbling away the power of other countries.
Today, the U.S. is nibbling away the power of other countries.
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Aviroce
2012-03-01 03:29:16 UTC
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"Maybe this is what the U.S. is striving to do, i.e., to get China into
a war:

1: To eliminate the U.S. debt to China.
2: to prevent China's rise before it's too late,
i.e., before China become a super-power.
3: to lock on to the world's #1 power position for the future. "

Excellent points. The path to Superpower is irreversible. Israel and USA have become the "recalcitrant teens in the group." Such kids get punished.
Post by rst0
Post by Aviroce
That what motivated my article.
Would Iran accept the attack lying on its back?
Like Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan, what can Iran do to fight back?
There is no way Iran can attack America. Attacking Israel would bring
out the nuclear bomb from Israel. This is something we must wait and
see.
Post by Aviroce
If Iran attacks back,
then an all out war would take place.
It would be difficult for Iran to attack back. NATO would probably be
part of the alliance which Iran may attack.
Post by Aviroce
Would Russia and China accept
an oil monopoly by USA on Islamic oil,
This is a guessing game which we all are participating today. No one
knows. I don't think the Russian or/and Chinese know.
Post by Aviroce
the only resource Muslims
have?
They have other resources - human resources and human ingenuity.
Remember, they have fought back in Iraq and Afghanistan, with IEDs,
which was something we didn't expect.
Post by Aviroce
China would have to buy the oil through USA.  Right now, USA
and China are on a trade war path.  Would this aggravate the
situation?  What about USA debt to China?
Maybe this is what the U.S. is striving to do, i.e., to get China into
1: To eliminate the U.S. debt to China.
2: to prevent China's rise before it's too late,
i.e., before China become a super-power.
3: to lock on to the world's #1 power position for the future.
Post by Aviroce
I see similarity between WWII and possibly WWIII.
Yeah, Germany was nibbling away the power of other countries.
Today, the U.S. is nibbling away the power of other countries.
l***@hotmail.com
2012-01-31 21:56:05 UTC
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Post by Aviroce
That what motivated my article.
Would Iran accept the attack lying on its back?
If the US does decide to attack, it is likely that it would limit the
attack
to bombing the putative nuclear rather than a large scale land
attack.
Under this scenario, I doubt Iran would attack back.
Post by Aviroce
If Iran attacks back,
then an all out war would take place.  Would Russia and China accept
an oil monopoly by USA on Islamic oil, the only resource Muslims
have?  China would have to buy the oil through USA.  Right now, USA
and China are on a trade war path.  Would this aggravate the
situation?  What about USA debt to China?
I see similarity between WWII and possibly WWIII.
Post by Aviroce
IRANIANS MUST NEVER LOWER THEIR GUARD
By Aviroce
The drums of war are loud and clear.  Jews have already
convinced the Empire to attack Iran.  The Empire and the
Jews are united to destroy Iran so that Palestinians,
Arabs and Muslims become slaves of Imperialism and Zionism
in the strictest sense.  Iran stands in the way according
to Western interests.  Iran must be ready to attack when
it is attacked.
War against Iran is coming.  The U.S. is testing a new bunker-busting
bomb that would penetrate 35 feet down before exploding.  This is what
it would take to destroy the Iranian nuclear facilities.
Post by Aviroce
If you read about Imperialism in American history, you will find that
USA wanted to capture all the oil fields after WWII.  For some reason
they felt that having the natives exploited indirectly would be more
beneficial the reason they had companies such Arabian American Oil
Company.  Now almost all companies are USA related and subdued by USA
except Iran's Shat al-Arab oil.  The Empire wants to capture these
oil
fields under the conspiracy that Iran should not have Nuclear
Weapons,
which would threaten the Empire's presence in the Persian Gulf and
the
Empire's possible campture of the Shat al-Arab oil fields.  Iran must
defend itself.
An attack on Iran should mean an attack on all Empire's bases in the
region including the warships.  Israel's attack on Iran will be
sheltered by USA attack to make Israel look as an innocent player.
But Iran should attack also Israel.  This means attack by USA on Iran
should mean iranian attack against all the Gulf states, Iraq,
Afgahnistan, and Israel.   It is a wide fight and of course spreading
assets on wider areas by a small underdeveloped country.  But what
other avenues does Iran have short of immediate surrender?
The issue of blocking the Straights of Hormus by sinking ships is
short lived damage.  But attacking American armada and American bases
can have more durable value.  Could Iran win such a war?  I do not
believe it could unless Russia, China, and India get involved.   In
that case it would become WWIII.   Still these countries could stay
on
the side line and watch Iran get destroyed and then buy their oil
from
one monopoly and that is the Empire's.
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Aviroce
2012-02-02 07:55:18 UTC
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Post by Aviroce
That what motivated my article.
Would Iran accept the attack lying on its back?
If the US does decide to attack, it is likely that it would limit the
attack
to bombing the putative nuclear rather than a large scale land
attack.
Under this scenario, I doubt Iran would attack back.
Post by Aviroce
If Iran attacks back,
then an all out war would take place.  Would Russia and China accept
an oil monopoly by USA on Islamic oil, the only resource Muslims
have?  China would have to buy the oil through USA.  Right now, USA
and China are on a trade war path.  Would this aggravate the
situation?  What about USA debt to China?
I see similarity between WWII and possibly WWIII.
Post by Aviroce
IRANIANS MUST NEVER LOWER THEIR GUARD
By Aviroce
The drums of war are loud and clear.  Jews have already
convinced the Empire to attack Iran.  The Empire and the
Jews are united to destroy Iran so that Palestinians,
Arabs and Muslims become slaves of Imperialism and Zionism
in the strictest sense.  Iran stands in the way according
to Western interests.  Iran must be ready to attack when
it is attacked.
War against Iran is coming.  The U.S. is testing a new bunker-busting
bomb that would penetrate 35 feet down before exploding.  This is what
it would take to destroy the Iranian nuclear facilities.
Post by Aviroce
If you read about Imperialism in American history, you will find that
USA wanted to capture all the oil fields after WWII.  For some reason
they felt that having the natives exploited indirectly would be more
beneficial the reason they had companies such Arabian American Oil
Company.  Now almost all companies are USA related and subdued by USA
except Iran's Shat al-Arab oil.  The Empire wants to capture these
oil
fields under the conspiracy that Iran should not have Nuclear
Weapons,
which would threaten the Empire's presence in the Persian Gulf and
the
Empire's possible campture of the Shat al-Arab oil fields.  Iran must
defend itself.
An attack on Iran should mean an attack on all Empire's bases in the
region including the warships.  Israel's attack on Iran will be
sheltered by USA attack to make Israel look as an innocent player.
But Iran should attack also Israel.  This means attack by USA on Iran
should mean iranian attack against all the Gulf states, Iraq,
Afgahnistan, and Israel.   It is a wide fight and of course spreading
assets on wider areas by a small underdeveloped country.  But what
other avenues does Iran have short of immediate surrender?
The issue of blocking the Straights of Hormus by sinking ships is
short lived damage.  But attacking American armada and American bases
can have more durable value.  Could Iran win such a war?  I do not
believe it could unless Russia, China, and India get involved.   In
that case it would become WWIII.   Still these countries could stay
on
the side line and watch Iran get destroyed and then buy their oil
from
one monopoly and that is the Empire's.
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That is too iffy. But it is highly probable as when Israel attacked
Syria. This would be chipping at the enemy. More attacks would
follow as the Empire has concluded that surgical demolition is
temporary in nature since Nuclear knowledge has spread and is fruitful
in Iran. More Iranian students are studying Nuclear power, last
estimate was about 1300 applicants to their prestigious university.

The other side of the coin is very clear. An attack on the nuclear
plant underground would be implemented by an attack at Shat Al-Arab to
carve off the oil reserves. As I understand it there are many Jews
who publically stated they do not like Israel. To me these can be
subversive and will cooperate with the invasion. Shat Al-Arab is
similar to Kuwait that was carved off Iraq. The military scenario is
to occupy Iran with the "Big Bomb" on its Nuclear plant, and cut Shat
Al-Arab off Iran. This scenario mandates retaliation by Iran.

Retaliation by Iran can be done by attacking American bases in
Bahrain, Kuwait, Iraq and Afghanistan. Also it can include basically
attacks on all Persian Gulf "Arab" countries as all are colonies of
USA, may be not in the strictest sense, merely economic satellites. If
Iran follows the strategies taken by Hezbollah in Lebanon against
Israel, few good men, then it would not be as easy as pie to carve the
oil fields off Iran.

USA is not afraid of Nuclear war with Iran as Iran would lose such war
easily. The Nuclear fear is an excuse to carve the oil fields. Iran
must not let its guard down. Continuous bombardment of the armada and
bases is a must for Iran to injure the monster.
l***@hotmail.com
2012-02-02 14:13:34 UTC
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Post by l***@hotmail.com
Post by Aviroce
That what motivated my article.
Would Iran accept the attack lying on its back?
If the US does decide to attack, it is likely that it would limit the
attack
to bombing the putative nuclear rather than a large scale land
attack.
Under this scenario, I doubt Iran would attack back.
Post by Aviroce
If Iran attacks back,
then an all out war would take place.  Would Russia and China accept
an oil monopoly by USA on Islamic oil, the only resource Muslims
have?  China would have to buy the oil through USA.  Right now, USA
and China are on a trade war path.  Would this aggravate the
situation?  What about USA debt to China?
I see similarity between WWII and possibly WWIII.
Post by Aviroce
IRANIANS MUST NEVER LOWER THEIR GUARD
By Aviroce
The drums of war are loud and clear.  Jews have already
convinced the Empire to attack Iran.  The Empire and the
Jews are united to destroy Iran so that Palestinians,
Arabs and Muslims become slaves of Imperialism and Zionism
in the strictest sense.  Iran stands in the way according
to Western interests.  Iran must be ready to attack when
it is attacked.
War against Iran is coming.  The U.S. is testing a new bunker-busting
bomb that would penetrate 35 feet down before exploding.  This is what
it would take to destroy the Iranian nuclear facilities.
Post by Aviroce
If you read about Imperialism in American history, you will find that
USA wanted to capture all the oil fields after WWII.  For some reason
they felt that having the natives exploited indirectly would be more
beneficial the reason they had companies such Arabian American Oil
Company.  Now almost all companies are USA related and subdued by USA
except Iran's Shat al-Arab oil.  The Empire wants to capture these
oil
fields under the conspiracy that Iran should not have Nuclear
Weapons,
which would threaten the Empire's presence in the Persian Gulf and
the
Empire's possible campture of the Shat al-Arab oil fields.  Iran must
defend itself.
An attack on Iran should mean an attack on all Empire's bases in the
region including the warships.  Israel's attack on Iran will be
sheltered by USA attack to make Israel look as an innocent player.
But Iran should attack also Israel.  This means attack by USA on Iran
should mean iranian attack against all the Gulf states, Iraq,
Afgahnistan, and Israel.   It is a wide fight and of course spreading
assets on wider areas by a small underdeveloped country.  But what
other avenues does Iran have short of immediate surrender?
The issue of blocking the Straights of Hormus by sinking ships is
short lived damage.  But attacking American armada and American bases
can have more durable value.  Could Iran win such a war?  I do not
believe it could unless Russia, China, and India get involved.   In
that case it would become WWIII.   Still these countries could stay
on
the side line and watch Iran get destroyed and then buy their oil
from
one monopoly and that is the Empire's.
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That is too iffy.  But it is highly probable as when Israel attacked
Syria.  This would be chipping at the enemy.  More attacks would
follow as the Empire has concluded that surgical demolition is
temporary in nature since Nuclear knowledge has spread and is fruitful
in Iran.  More Iranian students are studying Nuclear power, last
estimate was about 1300 applicants to their prestigious university.
The other side of the coin is very clear.  An attack on the nuclear
plant underground would be implemented by an attack at Shat Al-Arab to
carve off the oil reserves.  As I understand it there are many Jews
who publically stated they do not like Israel.  To me these can be
subversive and will cooperate with the invasion.  Shat Al-Arab is
similar to Kuwait that was carved off Iraq.  The military scenario is
to occupy Iran with the "Big Bomb" on its Nuclear plant, and cut Shat
Al-Arab off Iran.  This scenario mandates retaliation by Iran.
Occupying part of Iran of course will elicit a response. Why cut Shat
A-Arab off? I think Iran's nuclear is a threat to America, not its
having
Shat Al-Arab.
Retaliation by Iran can be done by attacking American bases in
Bahrain, Kuwait, Iraq and Afghanistan.  Also it can include basically
attacks on all Persian Gulf "Arab" countries as all are colonies of
USA, may be not in the strictest sense, merely economic satellites. If
Iran follows the strategies taken by Hezbollah in Lebanon against
Israel, few good men, then it would not be as easy as pie to carve the
oil fields off Iran.
USA is not afraid of Nuclear war with Iran as Iran would lose such war
easily.  The Nuclear fear is an excuse to carve the oil fields.  Iran
must not let its guard down.  Continuous bombardment of the armada and
bases is a must for Iran to injure the monster.
Aviroce
2012-03-01 03:35:13 UTC
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If you read carefully "The Art of War" by Tsun Tzu, you will find Shat Al-Arab is what Tzu calls "Living of the enemy." Nuclear weapons are not a threat to Imperialism and Zionism when all parties have them. Iran could not do much damage to USA before USA annihilates it. The logic is not true if a conventional war takes place as Nuclear War has too many after effects. Nuclear War is forbidden by humanity as that what it means to develop life. Jews are desparate to use it and boy what will happen is the ultimate annihilation of Jews as people.
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That what motivated my article.
Would Iran accept the attack lying on its back?
If the US does decide to attack, it is likely that it would limit the
attack
to bombing the putative nuclear rather than a large scale land
attack.
Under this scenario, I doubt Iran would attack back.
Post by Aviroce
If Iran attacks back,
then an all out war would take place.  Would Russia and China accept
an oil monopoly by USA on Islamic oil, the only resource Muslims
have?  China would have to buy the oil through USA.  Right now, USA
and China are on a trade war path.  Would this aggravate the
situation?  What about USA debt to China?
I see similarity between WWII and possibly WWIII.
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IRANIANS MUST NEVER LOWER THEIR GUARD
By Aviroce
The drums of war are loud and clear.  Jews have already
convinced the Empire to attack Iran.  The Empire and the
Jews are united to destroy Iran so that Palestinians,
Arabs and Muslims become slaves of Imperialism and Zionism
in the strictest sense.  Iran stands in the way according
to Western interests.  Iran must be ready to attack when
it is attacked.
War against Iran is coming.  The U.S. is testing a new bunker-busting
bomb that would penetrate 35 feet down before exploding.  This is what
it would take to destroy the Iranian nuclear facilities.
Post by Aviroce
If you read about Imperialism in American history, you will find that
USA wanted to capture all the oil fields after WWII.  For some reason
they felt that having the natives exploited indirectly would be more
beneficial the reason they had companies such Arabian American Oil
Company.  Now almost all companies are USA related and subdued by USA
except Iran's Shat al-Arab oil.  The Empire wants to capture these
oil
fields under the conspiracy that Iran should not have Nuclear
Weapons,
which would threaten the Empire's presence in the Persian Gulf and
the
Empire's possible campture of the Shat al-Arab oil fields.  Iran must
defend itself.
An attack on Iran should mean an attack on all Empire's bases in the
region including the warships.  Israel's attack on Iran will be
sheltered by USA attack to make Israel look as an innocent player.
But Iran should attack also Israel.  This means attack by USA on Iran
should mean iranian attack against all the Gulf states, Iraq,
Afgahnistan, and Israel.   It is a wide fight and of course spreading
assets on wider areas by a small underdeveloped country.  But what
other avenues does Iran have short of immediate surrender?
The issue of blocking the Straights of Hormus by sinking ships is
short lived damage.  But attacking American armada and American bases
can have more durable value.  Could Iran win such a war?  I do not
believe it could unless Russia, China, and India get involved.   In
that case it would become WWIII.   Still these countries could stay
on
the side line and watch Iran get destroyed and then buy their oil
from
one monopoly and that is the Empire's.
Aviroce- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
That is too iffy.  But it is highly probable as when Israel attacked
Syria.  This would be chipping at the enemy.  More attacks would
follow as the Empire has concluded that surgical demolition is
temporary in nature since Nuclear knowledge has spread and is fruitful
in Iran.  More Iranian students are studying Nuclear power, last
estimate was about 1300 applicants to their prestigious university.
The other side of the coin is very clear.  An attack on the nuclear
plant underground would be implemented by an attack at Shat Al-Arab to
carve off the oil reserves.  As I understand it there are many Jews
who publically stated they do not like Israel.  To me these can be
subversive and will cooperate with the invasion.  Shat Al-Arab is
similar to Kuwait that was carved off Iraq.  The military scenario is
to occupy Iran with the "Big Bomb" on its Nuclear plant, and cut Shat
Al-Arab off Iran.  This scenario mandates retaliation by Iran.
Occupying part of Iran of course will elicit a response. Why cut Shat
A-Arab off? I think Iran's nuclear is a threat to America, not its
having
Shat Al-Arab.
Retaliation by Iran can be done by attacking American bases in
Bahrain, Kuwait, Iraq and Afghanistan.  Also it can include basically
attacks on all Persian Gulf "Arab" countries as all are colonies of
USA, may be not in the strictest sense, merely economic satellites. If
Iran follows the strategies taken by Hezbollah in Lebanon against
Israel, few good men, then it would not be as easy as pie to carve the
oil fields off Iran.
USA is not afraid of Nuclear war with Iran as Iran would lose such war
easily.  The Nuclear fear is an excuse to carve the oil fields.  Iran
must not let its guard down.  Continuous bombardment of the armada and
bases is a must for Iran to injure the monster.
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